Fighting two at once is considerably harder than fighting them independently, and Mace isn't one of the people like Dooku who has expressed talent for taking on multiple people at once. His style of combat is best against a single opponent, hence why he has chances but he could also lose. If he removes Quinlan quickly via Force, he could win.
Originally posted by SunRazer
and Mace isn't one of the people like Dooku who has expressed talent for taking on multiple people at once.
Is it really a special talent to do that?
Ventress, Opress, Maul, Kenobi have all managed it. So I doubt it's something that's particularly difficult for Mace.
If this was Maul and Opress I admit it'd be difficult for Mace. But Vos and Opress? Mace stomps tbh.
Not necessarily, but some fighting styles are just better suited for fighting one target as opposed to others.
Most of the fights you listed are circumstantial or short-lived, or just against pretty weak people. Ventress vs Obi-Wan and Anakin etc. is just inconsistent. Well, to be honest, upon revision, Mace probably would win a majority, but it's not a stomp.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Fighting two at once is considerably harder than fighting them independently, and Mace isn't one of the people like Dooku who has expressed talent for taking on multiple people at once.
In any case, as the second most skilled Jedi in the order of his time and a Weapon Master, I certainly hope he knows how to take on multiple opponents at once.
Originally posted by SunRazer
His style of combat is best against a single opponent, hence why he has chances but he could also lose. If he removes Quinlan quickly via Force, he could win.
Plus, with Windu's mastery of all seven forms and status as a Weapon Master, he's familiar with a wide variety of forms, techniques, and weapons. As such, he would be more adaptable to these techniques in combat, which would be a boon to anybody facing two opponents with different fighting styles, and also grants Mace with several fallback options if needed.
I'm just not seeing Mace Windu being incapable of handling multiple opponents.
Nobody said Mace is incapable of taking on multiple opponents, only that his form isn't naturally built to do that. Of course he can acclimatize, it's just it's not the way he naturally fights (ie. he doesn't specialize in doing so). As a result, fighting two opponents is drastically different (and more difficult) than taking on each independently. However, I did overlook a considerable lack of synergy between Savage and Quinlan, so it probably won't add anything to the fight.
And fighting multiple droids at once isn't remotely comparable to fighting multiple Jedi.
Also, I hear everybody stating Mace has mastered all the forms, but is there a source for that? I know Mace mastered multiple forms, but I can't remember a source stating he mastered all seven. Regardless, Mace practically always uses Vaapad, as opposed to switching to other forms mid-duel, so I doubt those forms are genuine fallback options to begin with.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Nobody said Mace is incapable of taking on multiple opponents, only that his form isn't naturally built to do that. Of course he can acclimatize, it's just it's not the way he naturally fights (ie. he doesn't specialize in doing so). As a result, fighting two opponents is drastically different (and more difficult) than taking on each independently. However, I did overlook a considerable lack of synergy between Savage and Quinlan, so it probably won't add anything to the fight.
Originally posted by SunRazer
And fighting multiple droids at once isn't remotely comparable to fighting multiple Jedi.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Also, I hear everybody stating Mace has mastered all the forms, but is there a source for that? I know Mace mastered multiple forms, but I can't remember a source stating he mastered all seven. Regardless, Mace practically always uses Vaapad, as opposed to switching to other forms mid-duel, so I doubt those forms are genuine fallback options to begin with.
Eh, having mastery of the other forms still makes him more adaptable to them.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Nobody said Mace is incapable of taking on multiple opponents, only that his form isn't naturally built to do that. Of course he can acclimatize, it's just it's not the way he naturally fights (ie. he doesn't specialize in doing so). As a result, fighting two opponents is drastically different (and more difficult) than taking on each independently. However, I did overlook a considerable lack of synergy between Savage and Quinlan, so it probably won't add anything to the fight.And fighting multiple droids at once isn't remotely comparable to fighting multiple Jedi.
Also, I hear everybody stating Mace has mastered all the forms, but is there a source for that? I know Mace mastered multiple forms, but I can't remember a source stating he mastered all seven. Regardless, Mace practically always uses Vaapad, as opposed to switching to other forms mid-duel, so I doubt those forms are genuine fallback options to begin with.
Dooku said style is meant for one on one opponents yet we see Dooku wipe the floor with several opponents.
I agree.
Well the sense that he is second only to yoda he would need to have knowledge of all seven forms. Not saying this is fact but don't Vaapad master need to have mastered or at least have sown type of skills in all other previous forms to take on vaapads exhausting practice?