World War DESPERO

Originally posted by carver9
Makes sense.

V&V Despero showing...

Superman didn't use his speed, heat vision ice breath, or didn't attempt to bfr.

Captain Marvel didn't use his speed, bfr tactic lightning, Zeus amping.

Powergirl didn't use her heat vision, ice breath, super speed.

Wonder Woman didn't use her super speed, lasso, or tiara.

Hawkman didn't charge mace or use his other items.

With that said the showing is PIS and a lot of CIS took place during that showing which means he still fails at achieving what WWH achieved. They didn't use a percentage of their abilities against Despero.

👆 good debating there LOB.

You're WAY, WAY, out of your depth here, Carver.

The most powerful members of the JLA/JSA rushed Despero AT THE SAME TIME!

Despero's abilities were so vastly superior that he overwhelmed them.

Now, show me where Earth's mightiest heroes confronted Banner the same way in World War Hulk.

Let me help you, they DIDN'T!

Feel free to give me the non-existant example.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You're WAY, WAY, out of your depth here, Carver.

The most powerful members of the JLA/JSA rushed Despero AT THE SAME TIME!

Despero's abilities were so vastly superior that he overwhelmed them.

Now, show me where Earth's mightiest heroes confronted Banner the same way in World War Hulk.

Let me help you, they DIDN'T!

Feel free to give me the non-existant example.

Later on Superman one shot KO's the same Despero with a blast of heat vision.

http://s1007.photobucket.com/user/lgu88/media-full/Superman/Energy/hv/supermanbatman33k.jpg.html

Lol, imagine if he would've used heat vision during V&V along with Cap using lightning etc, etc...

Probably wouldn't have lasted as long.

Originally posted by carver9
Later on Superman one shot KO's the same Despero with a blast of heat vision.

http://s1007.photobucket.com/user/lgu88/media-full/Superman/Energy/hv/supermanbatman33k.jpg.html

Lol, imagine if he would've used heat vision during V&V along with Cap using lightning etc, etc...

Probably wouldn't have lasted as long.

Carver, are you ill?

That is NOT Despero from VIRTUE AND VICE.

😂

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Carver, are you ill?

That is NOT Despero from VIRTUE AND VICE.

😂

Lol...that showing happened right after V&V. Never said it happened in the same story but Superman did drop him afterwards.

😂

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...that showing happened right after V&V. Never said it happened in the same story but Superman did drop him afterwards.

😂

You're dangerously close to the abyss, Carver!

Move back from the edge and simply admit the superiority of Despero.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You're dangerously close to the abyss, Carver!

Move back from the edge and simply admit the superiority of Despero.

Who got dropped by heat vision? Superman could've soloed V&V Despero.

Originally posted by carver9
Who got dropped by heat vision? Superman could've soloed V&V Despero.

You're conflating incarnations.

Would you accept the Hulk's defeat by a weakened Thor while he was amped?

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You're conflating incarnations.

Would you accept the Hulk's defeat by a weakened Thor while he was amped?

Hulk showings got BETTER after WWH. Despero got one shot koed by a Herald 'right after V&V'. See the difference?

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk showings got BETTER after WWH. Despero got one shot koed by a Herald 'right after V&V'. See the difference?

I do indeed see the difference.

Instead of simply dealing with the depiction of Despero in V&V you find it necessary to obfuscate and deflect away from the character in that story.

The issue at hand is Despero as seen in V&V not any other showing.

I declare my cracka, Carver, the victor of this thread. Closing...

I keep thinking you're geckwash...

Also tbf no one was really dumb in WWH. In fact the entire arc and all the tie ins were pretty much the writers thinking of every possible way to beat Hulk and then saying "nope, doesn't work... anymore". It's more fair to say it was some huge fanboy wankfest than it was PIS or CIS. Pak even took it a step way farther in HOTM.

It was pretty much the closest thing you're ever going to see to a rabid fanboy getting a hold of writing their character. But it's covered by "new power level" so you can't exactly write it off. The perfect ploy.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
I do indeed see the difference.

Instead of simply dealing with the depiction of Despero in V&V you find it necessary to obfuscate and deflect away from the character in that story.

The issue at hand is Despero as seen in V&V not any other showing.

Your argument is all over the place. You bring up people not using every ounce of their abilities against WWH but failed to mention the same not happening in V&V. If anything, the hero's fought more out of character against Despero than anything. The only thing they did was charge in swinging. None of the people you mentioned that fought WWH did not so such thing. Strange telepathically attacked Hulk then amped himself to fight Hulk while throwing super speed punches with amped glowie hands. Kitty phased him and she followed her character without resorting to TRYING to kill him. She used her abilities though.

Sentry blitzed Hulk and covered the entire battle field in the power of a million exploding suns (per Ben and Reed words).

All in all the characters fought more aggressively against Hulk than what was showing in V&V.

Originally posted by Badabing
I declare my cracka, Carver, the victor of this thread. Closing...

😂 😂

This man is always right.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
I keep thinking you're geckwash...

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Also tbf no one was really dumb in WWH. In fact the entire arc and all the tie ins were pretty much the writers thinking of every possible way to beat Hulk and then saying "nope, doesn't work... anymore". It's more fair to say it was some huge fanboy wankfest than it was PIS or CIS. Pak even took it a step way farther in HOTM.

It was pretty much the closest thing you're ever going to see to a rabid fanboy getting a hold of writing their character. But it's covered by "new power level" so you can't exactly write it off. The perfect ploy.

Originally posted by Badabing
I declare my cracka, Carver, the victor of this thread. Closing...

Listen, you festering, Flinstone, fleabag go make your nightly sacrifice to Chris Pratt and stay out of my threads!

I'm waiting for Lord of Bullshit to say the yellow around Despero's head in that pic is an artist mistake.

Originally posted by Badabing
over emo Disclosure, I'm a Hulk fan. The writers made it clear WWH was stronger/more powerful than any previous Hulk, until HOTM. And they did throw everything at WWH. So yeah, pretty much a fanboy's dream. As a Hulk fan I really enjoyed the entire Planet & WW Hulk arcs. But I can see how people could be irked at WWH's showings.

But yeah, almost everything anyone has ever done to stop or halt Hulk was proven ineffectual under Pak and co. Plus new things but I'll go over some olds.

Juggernaut, Wolverine, Dr Strange, severe damage, Sentry aura, Sentry, draining, reverting to Grey Hulk, broken neck, Hulkbuster/Iron Man, Black Bolt, Thing Doc Samson She Hulk, telepathy, adamantium, Hercules, teams, the army, supressing rage, etc.

The only real thing left out was BFR which was stupid but it was kind of covered. They did their homework to say the least.

Originally posted by carver9
Your argument is all over the place. You bring up people not using every ounce of their abilities against WWH but failed to mention the same not happening in V&V. If anything, the hero's fought more out of character against Despero than anything. The only thing they did was charge in swinging. None of the people you mentioned that fought WWH did not so such thing. Strange telepathically attacked Hulk then amped himself to fight Hulk while throwing super speed punches with amped glowie hands. Kitty phased him and she followed her character without resorting to TRYING to kill him. She used her abilities though.

Sentry blitzed Hulk and covered the entire battle field in the power of a million exploding suns (per Ben and Reed words).

All in all the characters fought more aggressively against Hulk than what was showing in V&V.

My argument isn't all over the place, you simply can't keep up.

The top combatants on the field rushed Despero all at once. How could that possibly be a less agrressive display than what was seen against the Hulk?

Despero's performance is more impressive because he put down a greater threat with extreme ease.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
I'm waiting for Lord of Bullshit to say the yellow around Despero's head in that pic is an artist mistake.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Like Planet Hulk, did not like WWHulk.

But yeah, almost everything anyone has ever done to stop or halt Hulk was proven ineffectual under Pak and co. Plus new things but I'll go over some olds.

Juggernaut, Wolverine, Dr Strange, severe damage, Sentry aura, Sentry, draining, reverting to Grey Hulk, broken neck, Hulkbuster/Iron Man, Black Bolt, Thing Doc Samson She Hulk, telepathy, adamantium, Hercules, teams, the army, supressing rage, etc.

The only real thing left out was BFR which was stupid but it was kind of covered. They did their homework to say the least.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Listen, you festering, Flinstone, fleabag go make your nightly sacrifice to Chris Pratt and stay out of my threads!

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
My argument isn't all over the place, you simply can't keep up.

The top combatants on the field rushed Despero all at once. How could that possibly be a less agrressive display than what was seen against the Hulk?

Despero's performance is more impressive because he put down a greater threat with extreme ease.

Lol...the people that fought Hulk used versatility though whereas the same wasn't done against Despero which again makes your argument false.