Originally posted by relentless1
exactly, theres no contradiction there, i said that "i had always thought" meaning that until i came to places like this where every feat done by a character in a movie would be dissected and held up to real world standards i had never really thought about it like that. Thats why I decided to roll with it and make the thread about Hobbs and Hightower after watching Police Academy and seeing it through the eyes of a KMC poster.
I find the best way to look at it is to ignore labels and focus only on actual feats (regardless of whether they are perceived as superhuman in the setting). I mean say for example, we pit 2 characters played by the same actor against each other, and both are considered "human" in the portrayals. Yet one guy can tank getting blown up etc. and the other goes down to a baseball bat to the back or something. Thus, based on feats, we know the one can take a lot more damage than the other one, even though both are "humans", played by the same actor. So while those guys in the FF franchise might not be called superhumans in the movies, we still know that they can survive explosions, multi-story falls, move objects that weigh hundreds of kilograms etc.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I find the best way to look at it is to ignore labels and focus only on actual feats (regardless of whether they are perceived as superhuman in the setting). I mean say for example, we pit 2 characters played by the same actor against each other, and both are considered "human" in the portrayals. Yet one guy can tank getting blown up etc. and the other goes down to a baseball bat to the back or something. Thus, based on feats, we know the one can take a lot more damage than the other one, even though both are "humans", played by the same actor. So while those guys in the FF franchise might not be called superhumans in the movies, we still know that they can survive explosions, multi-story falls, move objects that weigh hundreds of kilograms etc.
Regardless of what he calls the main fighters from FF, he knew that their feats were better than those of Baleman, which is why he didn't address Shaw's feats, he just tried to lowball them by calling Shaw a regular guy and then pretending that losing to Dom after a good fight was somehow a bad showing.
He doesn't actually care about feats or a real debate, he just wants to give his pet character the win.