Smallville Superman vs Reeve Superman

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Really? Because I seem to recall him failing to catch 2 nuclear missiles. He could only stop 1 simply because he wasn't fast enough to do that.

The reversing time feat doesn't seem to be the sort of speed he can control in a combat scenario.

He also had trouble dodging missiles in Superman 3 (so this was a consistent thing). And the big missile even knocked him out.

I've seen that. But it doesn't match Smallville Clark disappearing in the middle of a football match to save Chloe, then coming back, and no one even noticed him missing, or even vanishing for a second.

Smallville Superman had the superior strength and speed feats (except for the time reversal).

Reeve Superman however has the random abilities, like teleporting, and making duplicates of himself, shooting random lasers out of his fingers (well that was General Zod & Co).

Zod shot lasers out of his fingers? 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well that's true!

He could teleport, and form duplicates of himself when required.

-Bricklaying vision when he needed to rebuild the Great Wall of China

-Could talk Russian in space when he needed to talk to some cosmonauts

-Saran wrap chest attack when he needed to wrap-up another Kryptonian

-Step out of himself to fight his evil-side

-Somehow protect normal humans from the vacuum of space by holding them

-Memory erasing kiss (this might be in the older comics)

There's probably more that I can't recall off the top of my head right now

He also had telekinesis.

Like I said, he was based off of PC Superman. That's why we saw him doing all that extra stuff that isn't part of his normal powerset. In the comics, the writers were practically making up new powers for him on the fly to overcome enemies or difficult situations. Smallville Clark is just out of his league here. Similar speed of the two is only thing that makes this not a cakewalk and might allow SC to get 1 or 2 wins out of ten but I kinda doubt it.

Apokolips from the Smallville series wasnt all that big really, far from something the size of Saturn (which is MANY times bigger than the entire Earth).

Originally posted by DTM
Apokolips from the Smallville series wasnt all that big really, far from something the size of Saturn (which is MANY times bigger than the entire Earth).

Reeves stomps. How can Smallville Clark hope to stop such an attack:

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Originally posted by Star428
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WTF?! I thought you said you were putting me on "ignore" a while back. Changed your mind? LOL.

Who me?

Can't remember. But I've never put anyone on "ignore."

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Smallville wins.

Best strength feat with throwing the larger than Saturn planet. And much better "combat" speed feats, with everyone standing still to him when he uses his speed.

Of course Reeves has moved faster with the spinning the Earth around thing, but never came close to that kind of speed in a fight. Presumably because he can't control that kind of speed.

I do not remember all of Smallville feats. It was a long show but what particular feats are better than Reeve's feats?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Really? Because I seem to recall him failing to catch 2 nuclear missiles. He could only stop 1 simply because he wasn't fast enough to do that.

The reversing time feat doesn't seem to be the sort of speed he can control in a combat scenario.

He also had trouble dodging missiles in Superman 3 (so this was a consistent thing). And the big missile even knocked him out.

The missiles only needed to get to Cal not the moon. Reeve had to not only catch the missile but send it to a place (which he did out of space) where it could do no harm. He clearly shown his speed in how he saved everyone after the other missile hit. Lane only died because he forgot about her not because he wasn’t fast enough to reach her in time.

As of Superman 3, are you going to argue that person who can turn back time has trouble dogging missiles? You know the missile that hit him Superman did not see not because he was two slow to move. Watch the scene again.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I've seen that. But it doesn't match Smallville Clark disappearing in the middle of a football match to save Chloe, then coming back, and no one even noticed him missing, or even vanishing for a second.

Smallville Superman had the superior strength and speed feats (except for the time reversal).

Reeve Superman however has the random abilities, like teleporting, and making duplicates of himself, shooting random lasers out of his fingers (well that was General Zod & Co).

Originally posted by Kotor3
In combat Reeve's move so fast you could not see him. This is in Superman II in his fortress when he fought Zod and his companions.

Nah that was teleportation.

Originally posted by Kotor3
I do not remember all of Smallville feats. It was a long show but what particular feats are better than Reeve's feats?

I've said he ran from a middle of a football game to save chloe, hit the bad guy, and back to the game, just as he was supposed to kick the ball.

No one noticed he was gone, or even saw a blurred image for a second. Nothing. And Lex was watching! He was always on the look out for something strange around Clark.

Originally posted by Kotor3
Really? You mean the two nuclear missiles that had a huge head start after he was drowning in water with Kryptonite on him. This was his first experience with Kryptonite. You act as if as soon as the Kryptonite came off he would be at full strength.

Fair enough.

Originally posted by Kotor3
As of Superman 3, are you going to argue that person who can turn back time has trouble dogging missiles? You know the missile that hit him Superman did not see not because he was two slow to move. Watch the scene again.

He was putting in serious effort to evade them. If he was so fast (light speed or whatever) they shouldn't have even been a distraction as he would reach his destination in a second.

Originally posted by Kotor3
I think it has already been established that Smallville has not face anyone really on the level of the Zod. Two Reeve’s has shown the ability to move so fast it seems as if he was teleporting during combat.

No he was teleporting himself. He was displaying all sorts of different powers in that scene.

Proof he was teleporting himself, is that Zod and crewe also couldn't track his movements. Unless you're honestly going to argue Superman's too fast for even Zod to see?

@Darth Thor
A few things:
I will look it up but where does it say that Superman teleported? Zod and his companions all did the same thing. I always saw it as him moving so fast he was not visible. If Superman could teleport then there would be no need for him to fly.

Next moving fast and dogging skills are not the same. Superman got caught off guard, he did not see the missile. Superman is not invulnerable. First I would not expect Superman to move at a certain speed while inside the earth since his ultimate speed feat cause a rift in space and time.

You also spoke of control of his speed. Well, Superman created the rift in space and time using not a spaceship, weapon or machine but his own body and powers (specifically speed). He not only created the rift he was able to control where in time and space he would enter. This shows he has ultimate control of his power of speed as we see shown in part of Superman where he is shown reversing time to a specific moment.

There is absolutely no reason to believe Reeve would lack control of his power of speed in combat. Instead, we would expect him to fight and use his powers as he did in his fight with Zod and his companions in the city, carefully and most likely holding back so as to minimize damage and not kill anyone.

Smallville Clark is up there in power. Remember when he vaporized all that water with heat vision at super speed? That is actually a pretty massive feat.

Then you have feats like him and Lana having sex(when Lana had Kryptonian powers) was shaking the entire town of Smallville.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AsdQ7diPPQ

It's at 1:30. Forgive the terrible music though, might want to turn that off.

Surtur this is better, some better feats and music too
Cheers
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Reeves is awesome, but Smallville stomps

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Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Surtur this is better, some better feats and music too
Cheers
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Extremely impressive speed feats, but not more impressive than flying so fast it results in time-travel.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
Reeves is awesome, but Smallville stomps

In Bizarro world maybe.

Both would stomp the MCU avengers