Is Luke more skilled than Sidious?

Started by Beniboybling3 pages

Originally posted by Nephthys
Well Nai just claimed that Sidious was in fact, barely studied. Anyone who's read Plagueis, what's his actual training like?
As brutal and as intense as you'd expect...

His saber training. Not.... the other saber training. 😘

Originally posted by Nephthys
Sidious was in fact, barely studied.

Intriguing. mmm

Nai has no basis for that, lol.

A rather ambitious station for an ignorant clod, but perhaps he's just that much of a natural? mmm

I'm cool with either interpretation tbh. stoned

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Was wondering if that had been confirmed.

Not that Nick Gillard didn't tell us in 2004 that Sidious is a master of all weapons and styles.

Originally posted by The_Tempest

A rather ambitious station for an ignorant clod, but perhaps he's just that much of a natural? mmm

I'm cool with either interpretation tbh. stoned

That was what immediately came to mind. But I'd want some more detail on Nai's point about his training in Plagueis: "The guy received nearly no formal lightsaber training by his own master (as mentioned in "Darth Plagueis"😉." Any thoughts, since you have read the book?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Not that Nick Gillard didn't tell us in 2004 that Sidious is a master of all weapons and styles.

Pretty sure extensive sparring was a Banite Sith thing. Even Maul got to spar a lot with Sidious.

Originally posted by Nephthys
That was what immediately came to mind. But I'd want some more detail on Nai's point about his training in Plagueis: "The guy received nearly no formal lightsaber training by his own master (as mentioned in "Darth Plagueis"😉." Any thoughts, since you have read the book?

I haven't seen any of Nai's posts on the subject {he's still on my ignore list, I think?}. If he said that Plagueis doesn't feature sparring between Plagueis and Sidious, he's right. But if he said Sidious is untrained or whatever, he's flat-out wrongmaking a peculiar inference.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Not that Nick Gillard didn't tell us in 2004 that Sidious is a master of all weapons and styles.
Didn't know that, interesting.

Originally posted by Nephthys
That was what immediately came to mind. But I'd want some more detail on Nai's point about his training in Plagueis: "The guy received nearly no formal lightsaber training by his own master (as mentioned in "Darth Plagueis"😉." Any thoughts, since you have read the book?
What Temp says, it doesn't feature any sparring, but that doesn't mean their wasn't any.

There is a lot of lightsaber practice however, for example Plagueis takes Sidious to Hypori (which he is said to have done so frequently) and together and they practice blast deflection against 200 battle droids.

Plagueis and Sidious also practice fighting with saberstaffs against an army of Kursid warriors, both of these things are implied to be regular exercises.

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Originally posted by NewGuy01
And he lost to Palpatine on Byss. 👆

A Dark Side nexus 👆

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Originally posted by Stigma
A Dark Side nexus 👆

Dark Side Luke 👆

Pretty sure that only hampered him at the time...

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By that same token you could say Mustifar!Anakin was hampered, but that wouldn't make being on a DS nexus a disadvantage for him.

What I mean was, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Luke was actually struggling to overcome the Emperor's dark influence, in that respect he would have in fact being futilely attempting to use the light side, not the dark.

Which is why the Emperor is then able to mentally dominate him, something he was unable to do in their final showdown on Byss. Altogether I have little doubt that Luke, once free from the Emperor's influence, was stronger than before.