THE WORTHY: Herald Gauntlet

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
NO.

I can pick a trinity of the heroes available to overcome The Worthy with ease.

You must think that everyone here are soft headed morons huh? Nul ripped through Adamantium like it was tissue paper. If he grabbed any one of your champions with the intention of doing harm to them, he would tear their limbs off with ease. Not sure if you realize the kind of damage Adamantium actually mitigates in comics?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Got ko'd.

Nul was floated, he wasn't KO'd. He was talking in outer space, he then lands and we see that he is just fine. Even if Thor managed to flash KO him, he would have shown signs of grogginess, this was not shown when he landed.

Thor did ok 2v1

This is 8v1...

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Thor did ok 2v1

This is 8v1...

Let's move the goal posts a little. What would have happened if Thor fought Worthy Hulk, and Worthy Juggernaut at the same time and they actually used their hammers?

Originally posted by Stoic

Nul was floated, he wasn't KO'd. He was talking in outer space, he then lands and we see that he is just fine. Even if Thor managed to flash KO him, he would have shown signs of grogginess, this was not shown when he landed.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Body was in a laid out position, empty speech bubble, and eyes seemingly closed.

He was flying through space. What position was he supposed to be in if he was just hit into space? If he was KO'd he wouldn't have been talking, or trying to talk. Because he was in space or more likely the upper atmosphere, he probably couldn't speak very loudly. The writer likely wanted to show the effects that a vacuum would have on someone's speech. If he was KO'd he would have been groggy when he landed, because it didn't take him long to land. We never saw anything like that. Thor won via BFR, but there was no KO. If there was a forcefield surrounding the battlefield, and that was Thor's best an final shot, Nul would have or could have gone back and beat the hell out of Thor when he passed out.

How does it even make sense to you, or anyone that a regular Hulk has the ability to break even with Thor, with Thor going all out, but an extremely amped Hulk would have trouble with him? Thor has limits, he doesn't just keep growing stronger to match any given opponent. I'm not going to take anything away from him, because it was a good showing for him, but to call that a KO would be an exaggeration. I'm looking at this as unbiased as possible, and from what i saw, no evidence supports the hit as being a KO. I have argued against the Hulk, and will again. I've also argued for Thor, but I can't give him something that wasn't there. Blue Marvel flash KO'd Sentry. That scene was clearly different from the Thor vs Nul battle. It's like claiming that Skaar KO'd the Juggernaut. He only floated him.

Originally posted by carver9
You're right. He should've flew around in space instead of floating. Do you have scans of him flying?

Just looked at it again. Looks ko'd. Thor laid him out. Woke up in reentry.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Just looked at it again. Looks ko'd. Thor laid him out. Woke up in reentry.

I'd agree if he wasn't talking. Since sound does not carry in space, it makes sense that no words could be seen in the speech bubble. For all we know, Nul could have said lucky bastard. So again, if he was KO'd there would have been no speech bubble. This is solid enough evidence to prove that he was not KO'd. When coupled with the fact that when he landed that he wasn't groggy in the least, the evidence really leans to him not having been KO'd in the least. It was a good showing for a wounded Thor, but the only character that he scored heavily on was Worthy Thing. Nul was just fine.

Tbh, this debate has been rehashed so many times - I doubt either side are going to convince the other....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Tbh, this debate has been rehashed so many times - I doubt either side are going to convince the other....

Well one side makes sense while the other side is reaching. The speech bubble makes it clear that Nul was not KO'd. If there was none then I would agree 100% and say that the evidence clearly shows that Nul was more than likely flash KO'd This is not what is portrayed however. That one speech bubble is something that can not be explained away. Space does not carry sound, and this is why we see an empty speech bubble. It's not difficult to realize, or to judge it for what it was, and/or wasn't.

The worthy stomp

Originally posted by Stoic
Well one side makes sense while the other side is reaching.

And I am 100% sure both sides think this, lol.

But, a debate for another time. Worthy slaughter here. Lol at LoB's 3 heralds who can take em on.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Body was in a laid out position, empty speech bubble, and eyes seemingly closed.

How should his body have been in space floating around? Never seen anyone with speech bubbles whole koed.

Originally posted by carver9
How should his body have been in space floating around? Never seen anyone with speech bubbles whole koed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_balloon

Here is another source:

http://www.blambot.com/grammar.shtml

The ellipsis is used when a character's speech trails off. ...Another allowable use is when a character's speech is stilted or they pause due to physical distress.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Speech bubbles with dots (known as a an ellipsis) are sometimes to used to convey stunned silence. As a manga reader, you should know this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_balloon

Here is another source:

http://www.blambot.com/grammar.shtml

Ok, I'm trying not to make anyone look foolish but that wasn't the only time blank speech bubbles was shown during fear itself. The Serpent did it more than once while walking around. Just stop. And stunned is different than a ko.

Originally posted by carver9
Ok, I'm trying not to make anyone look foolish but that wasn't the only time blank speech bubbles was shown during fear itself. The Serpent did it more than once while walking around. Just stop. And stunned is different than a ko.

Yes, and others have used it before whilst walking around. 100% agree.

The point I was trying to make is, the existence of speech bubbles with ellipses is inconclusive. Either side can use it as proof that Hulk was/wasn't KOed. Especially given its usage with characters who are stunned senseless.

IOW, stop using it as proof, because an argument can be made as well that it shows he was KOed.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes, and others have used it before whilst walking around. 100% agree.

The point I was trying to make is, the existence of speech bubbles with ellipses is inconclusive. Either side can use it as proof that Hulk was/wasn't KOed. Especially given its usage with characters who are stunned senseless.

IOW, stop using it as proof, because an argument can be made as well that it shows he was KOed.

He was 100% when he hit earth. Not a sign of fatigue, nothing. Everything goes against him being koed but to each his own.

Lob was T'd out last page and it appears Carver has been T'd as well.

Originally posted by carver9
He was 100% when he hit earth. Not a sign of fatigue, nothing. Everything goes against him being koed but to each his own.

I've seen many examples of the Hulk's incredible HF. Being 100% and ready for another fight does not prove he was NOT KOed.

If you want, I can post examples of Hulk's HF? If you haven't seen them before :-p

how this thread is still open..... 😑