Iranian General: 'Erasing Israel Off the Map' Is 'Nonnegotiable'

Benjamin Netanyahu has done more to destroy the US-Israel relationship than anyone else. He's the one who decided because he hated Obama he would turn the US-Israel alliance into a partisan issue and hijack congress to deliver a campaign speech while also undermining Obama's diplomatic initiative.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Nobody has done more to destroy the relationship than Obama/Hilary. I think you missed the part where Obama sent representatives to make sure Netanyahu lost the election. He's done nothing in support of Israel and everything to either oppose them or appear to remain neutral. And Netanyahu "hijacked" congress because he had no other recourse, due to Obama becoming increasingly and infuriatingly difficult.

What do you define as doing nothing? I'm sure it's a different metric than the rest of the world uses. Last I checked we're still paying for Israel's defense and we're still covering their increasingly indefensible actions vis-a-vis Palestine at the UNSC with our veto power. Just because Obama does it with a frown rather than a ear-to-ear grin the way his Republican rivals would do it doesn't mean it isn't happening. This is emblematic of how ungrateful Israelis are. They expect unconditional support from America no matter how meddlesome and unhelpful they are, or how terrible they make us look on the world stage by association.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Come on, buddy. One of his campaign advisers working for Netanyahu's opponents is nothing like Netanyahu addressing congress against Obama's wishes DURING an Israeli election season. He was disrespecting America and his own Israeli electorate by doing that.

He was disrespecting a guy that hasn't show him much respect. We can agree or disagree on the validity of that subject matter. I notice you skipped my point about Obama and his advisers trying to rig the Israeli elections. Talk about incompetence.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Nobody has done more to destroy the relationship than Obama/Hilary. I think you missed the part where Obama sent representatives to make sure Netanyahu lost the election. He's done nothing in support of Israel and everything to either oppose them or appear to remain neutral. And Netanyahu "hijacked" congress because he had no other recourse, due to Obama becoming increasingly and infuriatingly difficult.

No, I think the one blowing off the US for years is the one more responsible, even before that BS political stunt- which, by the way, was purely for his own personal election benefit, and not to help Israel.

Torpedoing the Iranian treaty is bad for Israel, but popular among the far-right in Israel. Netanyahu wanted to appeal to them, so he circumvented normal political protocols in order to deliver... essentially a campaign speech.

People in Israel blasted him for the move, as Israel has long viewed having bipartisan US support as strategically important, which they *had* until the move.

Also, Netanyahu supported Romney against Obama / second article

A bipartisan committee is looking into Obama, but no direct links have yet been found. Second article

Frankly it wouldn't shock me, because, c'mon, Netanyahu really has had it in for Obama for some time, and seems to view the US/Israeli relationship as a way to score points and not as a way to help his own country.

Isreal and Iran are not on good terms with each other, so these type of verbal exchanges are expected. Nothing to be alarmed about.

Isreali officials also issue warnings to Iran on different occasions. Here is an example: http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/04/02/israel-warns-of-military-option-as-iran-talks-drag-on/

Frankly it wouldn't shock me, because, c'mon, Netanyahu really has had it in for Obama for some time, and seems to view the US/Israeli relationship as a way to score points and not as a way to help his own country.

Originally posted by psmith81992
He has, because Obama has done nothing to show support for Israel, at least publicly. The relationship will be restored with a new president. Obama is too worried about appeasing Iran and other totalitarian regimes than re-establishing a friendship with Israel. Netanyahu does what he has to to protect his country (not saying he's perfect or absolving him of stupidity).

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You're in an echo chamber right now. Ignoring all the times Obama has come through for Israel and all the times Neyanyahu has tried to **** him over.

Simply stating this without providing a shred of proof invalidates your argument. You act as if it was a one way relationship. You conveniently ignore the many times Obama has ****ed over Netanyahu. At least pretend to be objective.

This is why the interwebs is so much fun.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Simply stating this without providing a shred of proof invalidates your argument. You act as if it was a one way relationship. You conveniently ignore the many times Obama has ****ed over Netanyahu. At least pretend to be objective.