Supreme Court Rules Same-Sex Marriage a Right (5-4)

Originally posted by Q99
They can call both parents one or the other.

Also note, quite often the alternative is simply having *one* legal parent.

Also-also note, gay couples are likely to adopt, and we have a notable shortage of adoptee parents, meaning it's a replacement for having *no* parents.

Originally posted by Q99
I don't think you are, it's existed for decades in some countries without problem and helps alleviate some issues.

B/W I know that gay-ism is an old phenomenon. This isn't a valid justification for it just like slavery.

Originally posted by Q99
And that hasn't changed one bit. Note that 100% of people in a gay marriage were recognized as competent to marry before this, just not allowed to do so with each other. Entirely different than your animal obsession.

Originally posted by Q99
It's called going forward. People have been wrong about many things. They were wrong about slavery, about racial inequality, about duels being a good way to solve problems, and so on.

"It's old so therefore it must be right," Is not a good argument.

Here is a worrisome implication:

Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM)a represent approximately 2% of the United States population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV. In 2010, young gay and bisexual men (aged 13-24 years) accounted for 72% of new HIV infections among all persons aged 13 to 24, and 30% of new infections among all gay and bisexual men. At the end of 2011, an estimated 500,022 (57%) persons living with an HIV diagnosis in the United States were gay and bisexual men, or gay and bisexual men who also inject drugs.

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/msm/facts/

Imagine if gay-ism spreads throughout the country, what would be the medical implications then?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
"You're" "your" and "You're"

You're free, man. You live in like the 12th most free country in the world.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
"You're" "your" and "You're"

I was using the Royal You, as in "people are free to..."

Originally posted by Bardock42
Consent has to be given. You can't just have sex with passed out people just cause they didn't refuse.

Read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human%E2%80%93animal_marriage

So why shouldn't this be permitted? The argument of consent is not good enough.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Your argument is about consent. But the reason why incest is not legally allowed is because the offspring of such relations has a very high chance of extreme health issues. Not taking that into account is silly.

Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM)a represent approximately 2% of the United States population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV. In 2010, young gay and bisexual men (aged 13-24 years) accounted for 72% of new HIV infections among all persons aged 13 to 24, and 30% of new infections among all gay and bisexual men. At the end of 2011, an estimated 500,022 (57%) persons living with an HIV diagnosis in the United States were gay and bisexual men, or gay and bisexual men who also inject drugs.

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/msm/facts/

Originally posted by Bardock42
That's really up to their socialisation, but I assume they will call the fathers father and the mothers mother.

Originally posted by Bardock42
By that logic, why should slavery not still be allowed?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
A child should have two legal parents: Father and Mother.

And what issues does it helps alleviate?

B/W I know that gay-ism is an old phenomenon. This isn't a valid justification for it just like slavery.

Marriage between males and females is most productive for a human society. Enabling other forms of marriages may result in reduction of heterosexuality.

I consider legalization of gay-ism as going backwards, not forward. Also, implications should be taken into consideration.

Here is a worrisome implication:

Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM)a represent approximately 2% of the United States population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV. In 2010, young gay and bisexual men (aged 13-24 years) accounted for 72% of new HIV infections among all persons aged 13 to 24, and 30% of new infections among all gay and bisexual men. At the end of 2011, an estimated 500,022 (57%) persons living with an HIV diagnosis in the United States were gay and bisexual men, or gay and bisexual men who also inject drugs.

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/msm/facts/

Imagine if gay-ism spread throughout the country, what would be the medical implications then?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Marriage between males and females is most productive for a human society. Enabling other forms of marriages may result in reduction of heterosexuality.

Imagine if gay-ism spread throughout the country, what would be the medical implications then?

That settles it, you're just dumb.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
My point is that some people find having sex with animals acceptable (existence of animal porn is proof) and some may even want to marry animals.

Read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human%E2%80%93animal_marriage

So why shouldn't this be permitted? The argument of consent is not good enough.

What about this?

Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM)a represent approximately 2% of the United States population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV. In 2010, young gay and bisexual men (aged 13-24 years) accounted for 72% of new HIV infections among all persons aged 13 to 24, and 30% of new infections among all gay and bisexual men. At the end of 2011, an estimated 500,022 (57%) persons living with an HIV diagnosis in the United States were gay and bisexual men, or gay and bisexual men who also inject drugs.

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/msm/facts/

Would make filling forms and legal matters a headache.

Point is to draw a line.

Most forms just used parent or guardian now anyways so another moot point.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
A child should have two legal parents: Father and Mother.

And what issues does it helps alleviate?

B/W I know that gay-ism is an old phenomenon. This isn't a valid justification for it just like slavery.

Marriage between males and females is most productive for a human society. Enabling other forms of marriages may result in reduction of heterosexuality and their would be additional implications that are not generally accounted for.

I consider legalization of gay-ism as going backwards, not forward. Also, implications should be taken into consideration.

Here is a worrisome implication:

Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM)a represent approximately 2% of the United States population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV. In 2010, young gay and bisexual men (aged 13-24 years) accounted for 72% of new HIV infections among all persons aged 13 to 24, and 30% of new infections among all gay and bisexual men. At the end of 2011, an estimated 500,022 (57%) persons living with an HIV diagnosis in the United States were gay and bisexual men, or gay and bisexual men who also inject drugs.

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/msm/facts/

Imagine if gay-ism spread throughout the country, what would be the medical implications then?

Jesus christ, I thought his posts on Star Wars were retarded.

I apologize for accidentally letting him out of his cage. Seems we should be far less worried about the spread of homosexuality (not gay-ism) and more worried about whatever form of brain hemorrhage or tumour this poor gentleman is afflicted with.

EDIT: I'm glad it got passed, tbh.

😉

Originally posted by Selenial
Jesus christ, I thought his posts on Star Wars were retarded.

I apologize for accidentally letting him out of his cage. Seems we should be far less worried about the spread of homosexuality (not gay-ism) and more worried about whatever form of brain hemorrhage or tumour this poor gentleman is afflicted with.

yeah what a loss to society that would be. #prayers4troglodyte

Originally posted by Newjak
This whole post is horrible but the fact that you are basically implying gay to be a disease by using words like spreading takes the cake.

Originally posted by Robtard
That settles it, you're just dumb.

Originally posted by Newjak
The argument of consent is one of the most important parts of why humans can not marry animals. You can not just dismiss it because it hurts your point.

Most forms just used parent or guardian now anyways so another moot point.

Originally posted by Selenial
Jesus christ, I thought his posts on Star Wars were retarded.

I apologize for accidentally letting him out of his cage. Seems we should be far less worried about the spread of homosexuality (not gay-ism) and more worried about whatever form of brain hemorrhage or tumour this poor gentleman is afflicted with.

Any counter for this?

Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM) represent approximately 2% of the United States population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV. In 2010, young gay and bisexual men (aged 13-24 years) accounted for 72% of new HIV infections among all persons aged 13 to 24, and 30% of new infections among all gay and bisexual men. At the end of 2011, an estimated 500,022 (57%) persons living with an HIV diagnosis in the United States were gay and bisexual men, or gay and bisexual men who also inject drugs.

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/msm/facts/

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@Selenial

You say Jesus Christ. So here is question for you:

Q1: Are you a Christian? If yes, then proceed to Q2 below

Q2: Does Christianity permits homosexuality?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Any counter for this?

Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM)a represent approximately 2% of the United States population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV. In 2010, young gay and bisexual men (aged 13-24 years) accounted for 72% of new HIV infections among all persons aged 13 to 24, and 30% of new infections among all gay and bisexual men. At the end of 2011, an estimated 500,022 (57%) persons living with an HIV diagnosis in the United States were gay and bisexual men, or gay and bisexual men who also inject drugs.

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/msm/facts/

What about this needs to be countered in your opinion?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
@Selenial

You say Jesus Christ. So here is question for you:

Q1: Are you a Christian? If yes, then proceed two Q2 below

Q2: Does Christianity permits homosexuality?

I used to be. Bu yes, it does.

Originally posted by Bardock42
What about this needs to be countered in your opinion?

Originally posted by Selenial
I used to be. Bu yes, it does.

Lev. 18:22 , "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."

Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them."

Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,1 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Any counter for this?

Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM)a represent approximately 2% of the United States population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV. In 2010, young gay and bisexual men (aged 13-24 years) accounted for 72% of new HIV infections among all persons aged 13 to 24, and 30% of new infections among all gay and bisexual men. At the end of 2011, an estimated 500,022 (57%) persons living with an HIV diagnosis in the United States were gay and bisexual men, or gay and bisexual men who also inject drugs.

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/msm/facts/

What's to counter? Your statistic has nothing to do with marriage.

On an unrelated note to marriage: HIV is higher in the gay-male population percentage-wise due to promiscuity and the easier form of transmission of anal sex vs other forms of sex.

On a related note to marriage: Marriage is often purposed by certain groups (eg some Christians) to be a cure-all for promiscuity, ergo, we can conclude that gay men getting married is a great thing. Good job, you just proved the benefits of gay-marriage, sport 👆

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Increased vulnerability to HIV related diseases is not an issue?

It is an issue, but it has nothing to do with gay marriage. If anything gay marriage would improve the issue due to fewer sexual partners.

Wow Legend. And here was me thinking your ignorance and stupidity only encompassed fictional matters, but it appears your equally inept when it comes to real world as well 🙄

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Any counter for this?

Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM) represent approximately 2% of the United States population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV. In 2010, young gay and bisexual men (aged 13-24 years) accounted for 72% of new HIV infections among all persons aged 13 to 24, and 30% of new infections among all gay and bisexual men. At the end of 2011, an estimated 500,022 (57%) persons living with an HIV diagnosis in the United States were gay and bisexual men, or gay and bisexual men who also inject drugs.

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/msm/facts/

Originally posted by Robtard
What's to counter? Your statistic has nothing to do with marriage.

On an unrelated note to marriage: HIV is higher in the gay-male population percentage-wise due to promiscuity and the easier form of transmission of anal sex vs other forms of sex.

On a related note to marriage: Marriage is often purposed by certain groups (eg Christians) to be a cure-all for promiscuity, ergo, we can conclude that gay men getting married is a great thing. Good job, you just proved the benefits of gay-marriage, sport 👆

Originally posted by Selenial
I used to be. Bu yes, it does.

Lev. 18:22 , "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."

Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them."

Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

You were not a good Christian.

So it' settled, same-sex marriage could help reduce HIV transmission rates in the gay-male population. Thanks SW Legend 👆

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Wow Legend. And here was me thinking your ignorance and stupidity only encompassed fictional matters, but it appears your equally inept when it comes to real world as well 🙄

What's your achievement in life? Writing a thesis on Star Wars topics?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
That makes HIV a problem, not homosexuality. 👆

Address the symptoms, not the causes.

The large percentage of gay and bisexual men living with HIV means that, as a group, gay and bisexual men have an increased chance of being exposed to HIV.

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/msm/facts/