http://marvel.wikia.com/Vartu_(Earth-616)
According to this, Uni-Lords counsel is 616.
First I'm hearing that the Uni Lord saga isn't canon.
Originally posted by cdtm
Where did you get that information?And who was the Surfer in the story, then? Isn't there more story after that Surfer crosses the universe and drains off his uni power? Is everything in that run also non canon, then?
Here both watcher and surfer confirm that he failed to enter the other universe.
Surfer confirms it in Spider Man team up 2 written by George Perez.
Its not 616 surfer.
It's a what if scenario.
Originally posted by abhilegend
[SIZE=4][B]First the evidence that the unilord saga is a What If story, here is the scene where surfer attempted to enter the unilord universe in SS v3 112
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http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/SilverSurferv3112p11.jpgNow what is revealed later in SS v3 114 is that surfer failed to enter the unilord universe and its all a What If scenario
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http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/SilverSurferv3114p07.jpg
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Except at the end of the Uni-Lord saga, SS# 121, we see Surfer exit the rift and land in front of Beta Ray Bill and Quasar.
SS#122 (which is the next story arc, and canon) picks off exactly where SS#122 (end of the Uni-lord Saga) leaves off, with Surfer in front of Beta Ray Bill and Quasar.
If the Uni-Lord Saga was a what-if, then the next story arc would've started with Surfer and the Watcher and not with Surfer with BRB and Quasar, since he supposedly "failed" to enter the rift.
Yet that would contradict continuity.
Originally posted by One-Punch
Except at the end of the Uni-Lord saga, [b]SS# 121, we see Surfer exit the rift and land in front of Beta Ray Bill and Quasar.SS#122 (which is the next story arc, and canon) picks off exactly where SS#122 (end of the Uni-lord Saga) leaves off, with Surfer in front of Beta Ray Bill and Quasar.
If the Uni-Lord Saga was a what-if, then the next story arc would've started with Surfer and the Watcher and not with Surfer with BRB and Quasar, since he supposedly "failed" to enter the rift.
Yet that would contradict continuity. [/B]
Because here Quasar flat out tells us that a silver beam struck surfer while he was already with them.
Surfer never exited the rift. A communication bolt hit him.
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Originally posted by abhilegend
Do you read your own scans?Because here Quasar flat out tells us that a silver beam struck surfer while he was already with them.
Surfer never exited the rift. A communication bolt hit him.
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Originally posted by Ambient
That wouldn't make any sense Abhi, why would a communication bolt come out of the rift when 1.) first at that point of the story the Unilord Universe no longer exist, as in destroyed and was replaced by Unilord Surfer's Universe where there is no longer a need to find a saviour, which is the purpose of the communication bolt. 2.) There is not a single hint in that arc that suggest more comm. device was sent after initial lunch. 3.) What would the purpose be in hitting Surfer with a comm. device a second time @ near or end of the arc to conclude the story. One thing is clear and Is supported by evidence, that there was only one being to ever enter the rift at the side of the Unilord Universe, the Unilord Silver Surfer speading through the breach to make it through 616 Universe side. A simple conclusion suggesting that the very same person shown to enter the rift should be same one to exit it.
There you go.
And we've been over this roldz. I don't want to rehash this. Quasar flat out said that the bolt was the same he sensed about five weeks ago.
No need for speculations.
Originally posted by abhilegend
The entire arc didn't make any sense.There you go.
And we've been over this roldz. I don't want to rehash this. Quasar flat out said that the bolt was the same he sensed about five weeks ago.
No need for speculations.
Yes! We've been over this and its getting old however i feel the need to correct your argument base on you not fully understanding or to put it on your own words "not making sense" of the story in that arc. Here let me feel it in for you: Code 1-1-1 is Unilord Silver Surfer (Silver Surfer merging with outrider 7) So when 616 Silver Surfer uttered 1-1-1, his referring to Unilord Silver Surfer and not another communication bolt.
Here's final evidence that should fully put you communication bolt claim to rest:
There where only 10 sent and only 1 survived..
To conclude, the Silver comet bolt that came out the rift is Unilord Silver Surfer who then merge with 616 version, making the whole Unilord Saga canon and just because it is what it is, its not going to make Supe's any lower 😄 .
Originally posted by Ambient
See this here is where the problem lies Abhi, you not fully grasping the story behind that arc therefore you fill in the messing part that made no sense to you, speculating and twisting it to fit your clouded claim..
Or you don't want to believe what's written in the comic.
Yes! We've been over this and its getting old however i feel the need to correct your argument base on you not fully understanding or to put it on your own words "not making sense" of the story in that arc. Here let me feel it in for you: Code 1-1-1 is Unilord Silver Surfer (Silver Surfer merging with outrider 7) So when 616 Silver Surfer uttered 1-1-1, his referring to Unilord Silver Surfer and not another communication bolt.
GTFO. Quasar flat out tells that this is the same communication bolt he sensed five weeks ago.
No, that's before another was sent.Here's final evidence that should fully put you communication bolt claim to rest:
There where only 10 sent and only 1 survived..
To conclude, the Silver comet bolt that came out the rift is Unilord Silver Surfer who then merge with 616 version, making the whole Unilord Saga canon and just because it is what it is, its not going to make Supe's any lower
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Quasar's words supersedes yours roldz. I don't give a **** about what you say until you provide a concrete proof. Unilord saga is non canon.
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Originally posted by abhilegend
Or you don't want to believe what's written in the comic.GTFO. Quasar flat out tells that this is the same communication bolt he sensed five weeks ago. No, that's before another was sent.
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Quasar's words supersedes yours roldz. I don't give a **** about what you say until you provide a concrete proof. Unilord saga is non canon.
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Where did it say the same Abhi? Quasar said "similar", A similar outrider that he sense five weeks ago, Outrider 5 interface 1-0-0 and outrider 4 interfaced 1-0-1 for BRB. The huge silver ball of a comet that came out the rift, the one being debated is Unilord Silver Surfer interfaced 1-1-1 (SS V3 # 111, Surfer merging with outrider 7 - proof) This is the reason why 616 Silver Surfer uttered 1-1-1 @ before and after merging with Unilord Silver Surfer @ end of Unilord Arc.
"Another was sent??" Provide proof that there was a 11th outrider made, explain why 616 Silver Surfer keep repeating 1-1-1 if that silver comet is another outrider? And how is Quasar word proof of your claim? Remember he didn't say the same but rather similar. The evidence provided by me via scan, stated that there where 10 sent and only 1 survive, this is concrete proof.
Again you not fully making any sense of the story is why your not understanding the Unilord arc, add that to your hatred of the character involved gives reason for speculation and twisting to suit your claim. The Unilord saga is canon and concrete proof via scan has been given to you, you need to counter it or give valid evidence to lay claim to your point, something very lacking on your argument.
