Dark Phoenix Vs Michael Korvac (The Enemy)

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Dark Phoenix Vs Michael Korvac (The Enemy)

We know Dark Phoenix is more powerful than a herald of Galactus, we know she eats stars, we know she is not quite Galactus.

Michael Korvac we know he is more powerful than a herald of Galactus, we know he is not quite Galactus.

not quite galactus...? 😕

anyway, this is enormously close imo. maybe korvac...or maybe phoenix. hmmm

Originally posted by leonidas
anyway, this is enormously close imo. maybe korvac...or maybe phoenix. hmmm

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Originally posted by Ionceknewu
we know she is not quite Galactus.

Do we know this from the fact that Phoenix has seemingly humiliated Galactus and no-sold his power every time they've had a fight?

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Originally posted by Magnon
Do we know this from the fact that Phoenix has seemingly humiliated Galactus and no-sold his power every time they've had a fight?

Are you really saying Dark Phoenix is more powerful than Galactus?

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Originally posted by Ionceknewu
Are you really saying Dark Phoenix is more powerful than Galactus?

Yes. Slightly.

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Originally posted by Magnon
Yes. Slightly.

Magnon would you like to show what happens next in each case? Particularly Galactus' speech and Phoenix's behaviour after the last scan?

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Originally posted by Magnon
Do we know this from the fact that Phoenix has seemingly humiliated Galactus and no-sold his power every time they've had a fight?


1) Galactus was hungry in that fight
2) That would have been a good fight but Rachel decided it wasn't worth it if the planet was destroyed in the aftermath of their fight and gave up willingly. He also took her by surprise, they had just returned from the "Cross Time Caper" quests.
3) That's from a What If

The more important scans are these :

She just transformed into Dark Phoenix and she was weak and hungry (according to her own words) and already Reed stated that her power level could rival Galactus (Reed would know).

Sorry, what happened in the only full on battle Phoenix had with Galactus?

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Originally posted by zopzop
The more important scans are these :
(snip)

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And let's not forget the Shi'ar assessment of Dark Phoenix in comparison to Galactus:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102593/3103779-1791791-xmtdps133rf2_001.jpg

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Originally posted by Magnon
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And let's not forget the Shi'ar assessment of Dark Phoenix in comparison to Galactus:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102593/3103779-1791791-xmtdps133rf2_001.jpg

We know Galactus could consume everything also from FF and in fact he was going to. It took, Thor, Deathshead II and the FF to stop him being used for that. It was actually happening and not hyperbole.

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Originally posted by Ionceknewu
We know Galactus could consume everything also from FF and in fact he was going to. It took, Thor, Deathshead II and the FF to stop him being used for that. It was actually happening and not hyperbole.

That Galactus was altered by the power of the Black Celestial. So.....

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Originally posted by zopzop
That Galactus was altered by the power of the Black Celestial. So.....

Are you saying Galactus is not as powerful as a Celestial? That Galactus was a 616 Galactus originally, the TVA of 616 were involved and 616 supporting cast. Now, he was altered yes, in the sense he was not be satiated by the energy he was feeding on. We know he can release Galactus wave energy so we know he can give out power faster than he feeds. No Black Celestial is needed. Back to topic, do you think Phoenix would beat Korvac?

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Originally posted by Ionceknewu
Are you saying Galactus is not as powerful as a Celestial? That Galactus was a 616 Galactus originally, the TVA of 616 were involved and 616 supporting cast. Now, he was altered yes, in the sense he was not be satiated by the energy he was feeding on. We know he can release Galactus wave energy so we know he can give out power faster than he feeds. No Black Celestial is needed. Back to topic, do you think Phoenix would beat Korvac?

Fact is, the only reason Galactus' hunger was at that level in that arc was because as Galactus was recovering on Earth, the Dreaming Celestial (while he was imprisoned by the way) altered Galactus' physiology and Galactus was powerless to stop it.

Back on topic, I'm in agreement with Leo, it could go either way.

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Yeah, to close to call. Good matchup.

Depends on what you mean by Dark Phoenix. Do you mean Jean Grey within the Dark Phoenix saga or simply a Phoenix host corrupted by the power? Because that's all a Dark Phoenix is.

A Phoenix host is hooked up to the limitless energy of the Phoenix Force. Whereas Galactus whilst powerful has limited energy reserves, that he is constantly burning through hence his endless hunger. He can absorb the energy of a planet, keep up with another cosmic power for a short period then hes quickly burned through his reserves and back to square one. Hes limited by his need for external sustenance:

https://imageshack.com/i/0hquasar24011j

In a forum battle whereby we're free to refer to the full extent of the characters powerset and how they would use them within their featured personalities Dark Phoenix would beat the average Galactus the majority of the time and by extension Michael Korvac.

Originally posted by zopzop
Fact is, the only reason Galactus' hunger was at that level in that arc was because as Galactus was recovering on Earth, the Dreaming Celestial (while he was imprisoned by the way) altered Galactus' physiology and Galactus was powerless to stop it.

Back on topic, I'm in agreement with Leo, it could go either way.

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I didn't disagree with the reason for his hunger.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Depends on what you mean by Dark Phoenix. Do you mean Jean Grey within the Dark Phoenix saga or simply a Phoenix host corrupted by the power? Because that's all a Dark Phoenix is.

A Phoenix host is hooked up to the limitless energy of the Phoenix Force. Whereas Galactus whilst powerful has limited energy reserves, that he is constantly burning through hence his endless hunger. He can absorb the energy of a planet, keep up with another cosmic power for a short period then hes quickly burned through his reserves and back to square one. Hes limited by his need for external sustenance:

https://imageshack.com/i/0hquasar24011j

In a forum battle whereby we're free to refer to the full extent of the characters powerset and how they would use them within their featured personalities Dark Phoenix would beat the average Galactus the majority of the time and by extension Michael Korvac.

Phoenix hosts and by default Dark Phoenix have far more low showings than Galactus and ergo Korvac.

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Originally posted by Magnon

Obviously not a win for Phoenix, Galactus clearly stepped in some splooge and just slipped and fell down.

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Originally posted by zopzop
That Galactus was altered by the power of the Black Celestial. So.....

His hunger was altered,not his power

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Originally posted by Genii96
His hunger was altered,not his power
Exactly