Speedfreak Vs. Odinson

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Ground and pound can only go so far against Speedfreek. Dude flies. Moot point anyway. Really don't see why he can't cause significant shockwaves even without Mjolnir. Way too strong not to. Plus he still has a black uru arm he can use as a hammer in place of Mjolnir.

And yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if he outright shatters those adamantium blades. Jarnbjorn is a monster.
http://i.imgur.com/WbI1PvH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/G2VAVV6.jpg

When was the last time we saw the Destroyer get outright sliced up let alone see damage? Even crazier is that Destroyer was powered by a being bordering on skyfather level.

I don't disagree but when was the last time you saw the Hulk eviscerated?

Originally posted by Ionceknewu
I don't disagree but when was the last time you saw the Hulk eviscerated?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So you're just going to ignore the tools at Odinson's disposal? Tools that can specifically counter Speedfreek's weapons. Tools that Hulk lacks..
🙁

No, I'm not, however, I just don't think he will land his Axe before his guts are removed in an average showing. If we take his outlier speed feats he might win, at normal speed just like hulk he's swinging at air for the most part and getting sliced and diced. Yes he has a Haxx weapon, No I don't think he can land it before Speedfreak is behind him and removing his arm and axe with it. But that's the fun of Battle boards, people disagree.

Damn, I didn't know Thor cut the Destroyer, that's insane. Speed Freak is phucked, no question about it.

Originally posted by Ionceknewu
No, I'm not, however, I just don't think he will land his Axe before his guts are removed in an average showing. If we take his outlier speed feats he might win, at normal speed just like hulk he's swinging at air for the most part and getting sliced and diced. Yes he has a Haxx weapon, No I don't think he can land it before Speedfreak is behind him and removing his arm and axe with it. But that's the fun of Battle boards, people disagree.

You keep asking questions, but you show nothing.. Only reason I'm even entertaining this is because I'm bored. And I'm also waiting on Carvster to actually add something of substance instead of butthurt fueled phrases.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Damn, I didn't know Thor cut the Destroyer, that's insane. Speed Freak is phucked, no question about it.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
You don't want to get me started on his damage soak. You really don't. What are Speedfreek's best feats? How fast is he really? Also how skilled is he?

You keep asking questions, but you show nothing.. Only reason I'm even entertaining this is because I'm bored.

Fast enough to beat up on the Hulk and cut him up twice. Both times if Speedfreak hadn't been playing with the Hulk he would have won. I understand you like Thor, he's simply not a speedster though and his beating a speedster who can cut the Hulks hide.... Are you honestly saying you see Thor's skin as more durable than the Hulk? Really?

Originally posted by Ionceknewu
Fast enough to beat up on the Hulk and cut him up twice. Both times if Speedfreak hadn't been playing with the Hulk he would have won. I understand you like Thor, he's simply not a speedster though and his beating a speedster who can cut the Hulks hide.... Are you honestly saying you see Thor's skin as more durable than the Hulk? Really?

Are you putting words in my mouth?

Again you're not answering anything.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
😂

Are you putting words in my mouth?

Again you're not answering anything.

Neither are you.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11114/111149425/3662690-3201837-hulk%2Bfeat%2Bspeed%2Bvs%2Bspeed%2Bfreak%2B(2).png

Hulk gets disemboweled. how often do you see that?

Hulk has to put his guts back in

Tbf - I WOULD say Thor has more durability than Hulk.

Hulk, however, has an insane HF on top of his durability. So Speedfreak cutting him should be no prob - he's faster than the HF, essentially.

My personal opinion, of course.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Tbf - I WOULD say Thor has more durability than Hulk.

Hulk, however, has an insane HF on top of his durability. So Speedfreak cutting him should be no prob - he's faster than the HF, essentially.

My personal opinion, of course.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Tbf - I WOULD say Thor has more durability than Hulk.

Not against piercing attacks, though.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Not against piercing attacks, though.

I thought it was all retconned to be Hulk healing faster than he was being damaged? Or am I misremembering?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I thought it was all retconned to be Hulk healing faster than he was being damaged? Or am I misremembering?

Kinda-sorta, but not every instance.

For example bullets always bounced off him, unlike in Thor's case.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I thought it was all retconned to be Hulk healing faster than he was being damaged? Or am I misremembering?

Me too

Originally posted by Ionceknewu
Neither are you.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11114/111149425/3662690-3201837-hulk%2Bfeat%2Bspeed%2Bvs%2Bspeed%2Bfreak%2B(2).png

Hulk gets disemboweled. how often do you see that?

Hulk has to put his guts back in

And let's say he cuts up Odinson. Let's say Speedfreek cuts his guts up. You think that's going to have a significant affect on him? He wades through that type of damage.

Still dangerous with his liver turned to glass.
http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/17/48/68/57/thor_v12.jpg

Powers through Odin's axe slash who consequently made himself 4x stronger than Thor.
http://i.imgur.com/fuEXT2V.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MaD0NHj.jpg

Impaled by Jarnbjorn courtesy of Apoc. Get's up like he has a paper cut.
http://i.imgur.com/3zL5gMn.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/23374/4593984-uncanny+avengers+006-017.jpg

Not even going to post Gorr and his Annihiblade. Would be overkill.

Btw you type like Carver... Hmm...
wink3

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
What am I a parrot that I keep having to repeat myself? How does Speedfreek counter lightning? And him touching up Thor in any detrimental way is going to be significantly much tougher than touching a guy who has nothing to parry his blades with.

And let's say he cuts up Odinson. Let's say Speedfreek cuts his guts up. You think that's going to have a significant affect on him? He wades through that type of damage.

Still dangerous with his liver turned to glass.
http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/17/48/68/57/thor_v12.jpg

Powers through Odin's axe slash who consequently made himself 4x stronger than Thor.
http://i.imgur.com/fuEXT2V.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MaD0NHj.jpg

Impaled by Jarnbjorn courtesy of Apoc. Get's up like he has a paper cut.
http://i.imgur.com/3zL5gMn.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/23374/4593984-uncanny+avengers+006-017.jpg

Not even going to post Gorr and his Annihiblade. Would be overkill.

Btw you type like Carver... Hmm...
wink3

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Kinda-sorta, but not every instance.

For example bullets always bounced off him, unlike in Thor's case.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He can damage him sure, but Speedfreak has a shiet ton of obstacles to get through. Keep in mind the standard starting distance which is .5km. That's a little over 5 football fields. First line of defense is lightning. This is literally a one-shot if Odinson opens with it. Let's say he doesn't. Now Speedfreak has to deal with Thor's other tools. Remember unlike Hulk, Thor can fend off Speedfreak's attack with Jarnbjorn and his black uru arm. Hulk didn't have that luxury, but here Odinson has it in spades. The idea that he can easily be cut up especially at his vitals is very hard to accept. Plus he's vastly more superior in skill than Speedfreak.

For starters he's shown great reflexes and using his legs.

Mjolnirless young Thor continuously dodges "blast after blast".
http://i.imgur.com/ArF1jvB.jpg

Continuously dodges 3 meteorites with "unabated speed" that was powered by the Odinforce.
http://i.imgur.com/c5Q7eRu.jpg

He's also shown great reflexes and reaction with his arms.

Shatters his surroundings then hurls multiple fragments at his opponent by batting them away.
http://i.imgur.com/gRZUDH6.jpg

Bats away a barrage of bullets.
http://i.imgur.com/KeKA9Fc.jpg

Makes two full swings at flying debris before a speeding Gladiator reaches him.
http://i.imgur.com/7VNkVXd.jpg

Catches a tank shell with his bare hands.
http://i.imgur.com/UV4AhLf.jpg

Parries a sniper's bullet in mid-flight.
http://i.imgur.com/2NA17zx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9ij4o0f.jpg

He can also cover distances with great speed.

From a distance, Thor is able to save a child who is falling off a cliff. Notice Thor is already in position to catch the child who literally just went over said cliff. Might as well call it teleportation.
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http://i.imgur.com/c3V3k06.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1bRwWNV.jpg

Reaches Surfer from a distance before he can fire off another blast. You see that blur with a bit of lightning at the bottom left panel? Yeah that's Thor running towards Norrin.
http://i.imgur.com/3UZyj6x.jpg

And for good measure.

He is able to perceive Skuttlebut who just blew by him. We know Skuttlebut was travelling faster than light just three pages prior.
http://i.imgur.com/ao1PZUZ.png

We know he sometimes he underperforms when going up against vastly weaker opponents that are supposedly fast, but it's not much different from someone tagging Flash, Gladz, Surfer, or any other character with tremendous speed. Now I'm not saying he is on those levels(being a speedster is not his thing after all), but the idea that Thor is a snail is just stupid and contradicts many of his on panel showings.

Gladiator has already shown he is flat out faster then Thor. Gladiator adjusted to time dilation using sheer speed, Thor needed technology.

Some of the feats you posted aren't quantifiable, some impressive, and the others aren't massively impressive. People here always talk about "on average" showings, which if that is the case Thor is basically a high end bullet timer at best.

^Faster than masterson Thor.

So is Thor.