Let's see...here's a quick list of many actual and possible taxes we pay
#1 Building Permit Taxes
#2 Capital Gains Taxes
#3 Cigarette Taxes
#4 Court Fines (indirect taxes)
#5 Dog License Taxes
#6 Federal Unemployment Taxes
#7 Fishing License Taxes
#8 Food License Taxes
#9 Gasoline Taxes
#10 Gift Taxes
#11 Hunting License Taxes
#12 Inheritance Taxes
#13 Inventory Taxes
#14 IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)
#15 IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
#16 Liquor Taxes
#17 Luxury Taxes
#18 Marriage License Taxes
#19 Medicare Taxes
#20 Property Taxes
#21 Recreational Vehicle Taxes
#22 Toll Booth Taxes
#23 Sales Taxes
#24 Self-Employment Taxes
#25 School Taxes
#26 Septic Permit Taxes
#27 Service Charge Taxes
#28 Social Security Taxes
#29 State Unemployment Taxes (SUTA)
#30 Telephone Federal Excise Taxes
#31 Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Taxes
#32 Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Taxes
#33 Telephone State And Local Taxes
#34 Tire Taxes
#35 Toll Bridge Taxes
#36 Toll Tunnel Taxes
#37 Traffic Fines (indirect taxation)
#38 Utility Taxes
#39 Vehicle License Registration Taxes
#40 Vehicle Sales Taxes
#41 Workers Compensation Taxes
The best way to eliminate the number of 'times' you're taxed- an odd way to count it- would be to eliminate income tax, because you're taxed every time you buy an item.
Considering that, I assume I'm taxed thousands of times a month.
Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Looking at all of that proves what I heard someone say the other day. No one in the U.S actually owns anything. We just rent everything from the government. [/B]
Replace 'US' with 'in civilization' and it'd be equally true.
Which is to say, not exactly true, people definitely own stuff, but living in a country with an infrastructure does effectively require chipping in for 'rent.' Because you're using that infrastructure, and if people didn't chip in, the system falls apart.
Originally posted by Q99Which is to say, not exactly true, people definitely own stuff, but living in a country with an infrastructure does effectively require chipping in for 'rent.' Because you're using that infrastructure, and if people didn't chip in, the system falls apart.
Bull Crap. I if you fail to pay your taxes. The Government (of any country the U.S included) will take LITERALLY every ting you own. And there aint a DAMN thing you can do about it.
Unless your really rich and can pay them off.
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Originally posted by Surtur
Speaking of taxes, I think we should bring back tariffs. Don't other countries tax us for doing the same?Not a bad idea if we do what people in the other thread were saying and decide to police the entire world.
They do. But we let them pile their cheap shit in our stores thanks to Clinton's idiocy. Fair Trade Agreement my ass.
Originally posted by Bardock42
That's a bummer that America's strong and highly regarded manufacturing industry apparently can't find buyers abroad..
Our manufacturing industry is a mere fraction of what it was fifty years ago. Outsourcing saved CEOs and share holders money, so jobs disappeared. You can find some GM cars made in Mexico, not the US, for example, and yet that was one of the largest manufacturing businesses in the Midwest for decades. Then we let China flood our market with cheap goods. No one will buy American because our goods cost more. Mainly because our plants have fire exits and rules unlike theirs.
Sure, regular people pay less for goods and they become more common. But what about all those jobs? What about disposable income? Money needs to stay here more than it needs to go to a barely-ally such as China.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Our manufacturing industry is a mere fraction of what it was fifty years ago. Outsourcing saved CEOs and share holders money, so jobs disappeared. You can find some GM cars made in Mexico, not the US, for example, and yet that was one of the largest manufacturing businesses in the Midwest for decades. Then we let China flood our market with cheap goods. No one will buy American because our goods cost more. Mainly because our plants have fire exits and rules unlike theirs.Sure, regular people pay less for goods and they become more common. But what about all those jobs? What about disposable income? Money needs to stay here more than it needs to go to a barely-ally such as China.
Please, I'm German, you don't have to convince me of the benefits of a strong industry.
Originally posted by psmith81992
Consumption based economy ftw! I miss the 50s, minus the racism. I will note however that business (specifically s corp) taxes are quite favorable.
The 50s did have the top income bracket paying 90%...maybe a bit closer to that won't be too bad. As long as you throw in capital gains.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Please, I'm German, you don't have to convince me of the benefits of a strong industry.
It's your national bonus in Rise of Nations. I know.
Originally posted by psmith81992
Consumption based economy ftw! I miss the 50s, minus the racism. I will note however that business (specifically s corp) taxes are quite favorable.
The problem is that the country is shifting in favor of those up top. Just before 2008, Forbes reported the numbers of millionaires and billionaires increasing, almost exponentially. This trend is still on the rise, because the mechanisms are in place to create untold wealth for people who already don't have to worry about wealth.
Meanwhile, prices are effectively 400% of what they were when you and I were born. We have more living old people who need help and have limited incomes. We have trillions in debt we never had before, and we're in a period of social upheaval that will continue until things get better.