Race baiting media at it again...

Started by Bardock429 pages

Why don't we have hospitals for healthy people?
Why don't we put living people in cemetaries?
Why don't we have food banks for rich people?

Isn't that really unfair to them?

Well now you have come to a MUCH harder question. There is an idealised time in the future when everyone can be treated the same in the way you want it and this can be done with no risk of unfairness. Right now, though, if you try to treat everyone equally in the way you mean it, you end up with massive inequality.

Easy example- charging everyone without exception $100k a year for university is equal treatment, but socially it shuts all but the rich out of higher education so it is broadly unfair, and hence there are tweaks.

You want a society where the tweaks are not needed. That takes a LOT of movement, involving both sides, and a lot of cultural understanding. A long-term job.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Why don't we have hospitals for healthy people?
Why don't we put living people in cemetaries?
Why don't we have food banks for rich people?

Isn't that really unfair to them?

So in other words: if you were oppressed in the past then taking pride in who you are is totally kosher. If you weren't, it is not.

Again, 'taking pride' is where you are mis-representing the debate via simplification.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Again, 'taking pride' is where you are mis-representing the debate via simplification.

So it is not simplification to say every single white person in the country who feels pride is also a racist who is itching to join the KKK and all that?

Well, no, because you are adding details to that so that makes it complication. It's wrong, regardless.

It is accurate to say that those bearing white pride tattoos very likely hold racist beliefs or are holding association with such beliefs. This association is something that it is valid to judge by.

Here is a crazy thought, why not if we see a person with the name of their race tatooed on them..we simply ask them what they are trying to invoke by having that tatoo, as opposed to immediately jumping to conclusions about it?

Every tatoo usually has a story or reason behind it, so why not ask for it instead of assuming? It's not like the tatoo said "white power" or "I hate black people forever".

At least this way you know for sure the person you are labeling as racist is..well, racist.

Originally posted by Surtur
Here is a crazy thought, why not if we see a person with the name of their race tatooed on them..we simply ask them what they are trying to invoke by having that tatoo, as opposed to immediately jumping to conclusions about it?

Every tatoo usually has a story or reason behind it, so why not ask for it instead of assuming? It's not like the tatoo said "white power" or "I had black people forever".

That's a good idea, and when you see an angry guy chasing you with a lead pipe you probably should also ask if he's actually angry or whether this is just some funny improv session.

Would you do that with a white man bearing a swastika?

It is not unreasonable to draw judgements based on such expressions, and someone bearing such an expression should know what message it is likely to give out.

Freedom of speech isn't absolute. It cannot be used to incite or revolt. Different standard exists for logical reasons (men vs. women where abuse exists).

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Would you do that with a white man bearing a swastika?

It is not unreasonable to draw judgements based on such expressions, and someone bearing such an expression should know what message it is likely to give out.

But a swastika is a clear sign of hatred. The word "white" is not.

What if my last name was white, and I get a tatoo of it? Will dipshits be assuming I'm all for white power?

To me tattoos signal white trash regardless of their motif, size or location. And while the word "white" isn't an exception, it's so ambiguous that you've to be pretty short-sighted to jump to the conclusion that it's racist.

Then again, vocal liberals tend to be idiots, so it doesn't surprise me.

Originally posted by Bardock42
A black man with the word "black" tattooed on him, is not the same as a white man with the word "white". These have completely different contexts and disregarding them will lead you to misunderstand the situation.

That being said, there'd likely be a different kind of backlash (for example remember the FOX News outrage over the rapper Common in the White House)

Sorry, but no. It's no goddamn different. It's a double standard and white Americans are getting tired of people who have an attitude like yours about it.

Originally posted by Astner
To me tattoos signal white trash regardless of their motif, size or location. And while the word "white" isn't an exception, it's so ambiguous that you've to be pretty short-sighted to jump to the conclusion that it's racist.

Then again, vocal liberals tend to be idiots, so it doesn't surprise me.

So a black guy with a tatoo is white trash?

oppressive majorities always fancy themselves clever when they're feigning persecution as part of an obvious campaign to persecute others. relevant: http://rt.com/politics/272416-russia-straight-flag-family/?

To be honest I actually don't see it as persecution. Just outright bullshit. Just like saying all black people are thugs is bullshit, or all latino's are rapists is bullshit.

Originally posted by Surtur
So a black guy with a tatoo is white trash?

The thread is about white people tattooing the word white on their bodies. Not even the liberals would consider a black man who tattoos the word white on his body a racist.

LOL. The overwhelming majority of people in this thread who are making lame ass excuses for this double standard behavior are not even American. They haven't had to put up with this double standard bullshit for decades so it's not hard to see why they're all so ignorant on the matter. If you all want to be ashamed of "being white" then that's your right. Pretty sad and pathetic if u ask me but it's your right.As for me, I will always be just as every bit as proud of being white as all the blacks who play their racist so-called "music" are of being black. And if you think I'm a racist for feeling that way then I really don't give a goddamn.

I wonder what the tattoo is for, have they found this guy?

I'm a conservative American but I don't nitpick as much as you do. Double standards DO exist and sometimes they ARE valid. "White power" is as bad as "black power". One has KKK connotations, the other, Black Panthers.