Darth Vader vs TPM Sidious

Vader gets all his showings both legends and Canon. Sidious as of legends

Sidious is still too fast, too skilled, too cunning, and is at least as good as/better than Vader in every other area.

Also, lightning haxx.

Vader

Sidious

Nope. Not even this version. TPM Sidious is still as strong as Plagueis, and only BARELY beatable by Caedus.

Vader's still outclassed.

Sidious wins.

Originally posted by Angelalex242
Nope. Not even this version. TPM Sidious is still only BARELY beatable by Caedus.

Or not.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Sidious is still too fast, too skilled, too cunning, and is at least as good as/better than Vader in every other area.

Also, lightning haxx.

New canon Vader pulled a ship out of the sky, held up an AT AT leg and splattered two lyleks with a single Force push. I think it should be a close fight

Too early a version of Palpatine

Vader wins

Sidious rapes, as usual.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
New canon Vader pulled a ship out of the sky, held up an AT AT leg and splattered two lyleks with a single Force push. I think it should be a close fight

So he's an arguably superior telekinetic. Doesn't change the fact that he's slower, less skilled, less knowledgeable, and a relative simpleton.

I agree Sidious beating an exhausted Maul and beating primitives with spears is beyond anything Vader can do.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
and a relative simpleton.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Get out.

Relative to Palpatine. And let's face it, he is. Heck, almost everyone is.

Edit: at least that's what I'm assuming NewGuy was saying...

No, no. He meant Vader is retarded. He told me as much in a PM exactly 28 minutes ago and I'm almost certain he wasn't crossing his fingers at the time.

Well, if we're talking about Attack of the Clones Anakin, you might have a case for that, but OT Vader is quite competent.

Originally posted by ILS
No, no. He meant Vader is retarded. He told me as much in a PM exactly 28 minutes ago and I'm almost certain he wasn't crossing his fingers at the time.

😠

Sidious wins solidly. To my memory, he moved too fast for Maul to see, so he would be able to replicate that with Vader.

Originally posted by ares834
Relative to Palpatine. And let's face it, he is. Heck, almost everyone is.

Edit: at least that's what I'm assuming NewGuy was saying...