Originally posted by Lord Stark
I don't think Windu is overrated, recently he's been pretty underrated honestly. As for this thread, Kenobi...easily. Everyone of his feats is discounted as circumstantial lol, which granted, is fairly valid, but people give him NO credit in spite of having a very successful track record against some of the most powerful combatants in the mythos.I mean...Fisto level? Come on now.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
All she did was blow up a planet she already blew up and beat up an old woman.
It was actually Bao's remote that blew up the planet.
But that's not what I was saying, was meaning the Academy feat where people like to bring up that she waded through an entire academy while being hindered and then beating Sion and Traya.
The latter two things are quantifiable for sure, but as far as wading through the Academy we don't know how all that went down.
Did she not have to battle through every room? Did she sneak by some enemies? How many Sith guys were actually in the academy? How many were actually Dark force users?
Were Suirk's companions involved when they went to the Academy? How were they able to bypass through to the Core? Did they kill any Sith along their way?
So on, so on. It's a vague thing.
Nah. The remote blew up the planet on Surik's orders, just like before. Saying she didn't because she didn't physically push the button doesn't mean anything. She didn't press the button the first time either.
As for the rest, there's no evidence Surik was hindered at all on Malachor, and while her Trayus feat is remarkable, it's not really out of place in a universe that just five years earlier featured Revan take on entire armies of Jedi killing droids and the most powerful Dark Jedi of the entire galaxy while an amnesiac. Pretty sure the campaign guide talks about Surik being forced to kill the Sith apprentices in the academy, so that's not really a point against her; she also has zero stealth feats to her name. She did indeed fight most of those Sith head on, but considering she grows stronger with every kill, that's also not unbelievable. It's also not amazing. Jedi frequently take on armies in the TOR era and NJO era even at great hinderance, which Surik didn't have.
Originally posted by Nephthys
She did actually
Originally posted by Zenwolf
But it still remains, how many were actually in the Academy? How many did she take on at once? So on and so forth.Also I find that whole getting stronger with every kill being extremely stupid too.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Source? Still waiting on that, and not really. All of those Jedi aren't "amazing." Korr's been through "armies" before. Well before his prime(or puberty).
The fact that Meetra herself states that she was very hindered? The fact that she's a Jedi assaulting a bastion of the darkside, on top of the wound of Malachor and the gravity?
They are amazing and Korr is a very powerful Jedi, as Marka ****ing Ragnos discovered. Plus he didn't really fight through any armies I can recall. A dozen or so shitty Dark Jedi but no armies.
The Sith can still be affected by it though.
Whether or not it's like her, Meetra herself describes how insanely horrible Malachor was with all the dead screaming in her head. Malachor is extremely corrupting and mentally damaging in general.
Maybe, but the Sith have had more time to acclimatise to it and can draw on the nexus to help if they want. She can't.
Originally posted by ILS
Someone who needs to be given more credit to as a Force user but receive more critique as a fighter.
Good starting point would be determining how powerful a hindered Anakin's TK is
He's obviously beneath Dooku again if Kenobi's stalemating him, but how far did his power fall due conflicted emotions?
Would Maul bowl him over? Savage? Shaak Ti? Etc?
Establish some kind of minimum for Anakin and you have Kenobi's Force power