this has been done but star lord threads don't get replies for some reason...h2h bats kicks his a$$ for certain. with gear, i think it's closer. bats has more versatility with his standard gear though, but pete can fly. i think this would be a hilarious fight to read. i'm still undecided but would go with pretty close to a split or a slight edge to bats.
Originally posted by SquallX
The better question is, when has Bats fought any super beings without the help of pis\cis.
When it gets so regular, you kinda have to stop calling it PIS, though.
If you just want to go by handbooks (he's a normal human etc etc), then everything he does is PIS. Because no normal human in RL can do what he does.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
When it gets so regular, you kinda have to stop calling it PIS, though.If you just want to go by handbooks (he's a normal human etc etc), then everything he does is PIS. Because no normal human in RL can do what he does.
I disgree, it's simply more confirmed as PIS. That's what the character has become, so much so that people are telling me he is a certified superhuman even though that's not part of his mythos or history. Overwhelming PIS/CIS.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
When it gets so regular, you kinda have to stop calling it PIS, though.If you just want to go by handbooks (he's a normal human etc etc), then everything he does is PIS. Because no normal human in RL can do what he does.
Not really.
Like someone once said, DC has been beating it over our head that Bruce is nothing but a mere human.
So when Bruce last a second against a super human being, then it is pis, no matter how many times he's done it.
You can't tell me it's not pis when Bruce gets outsmarted by the likes of Joker, Bane or the Riddler, only for him to turn around and outsmarts the likes of Darkseid as shown in Loeb's Superman/Batman run.
Originally posted by SquallX
Not really.Like someone once said, DC has been beating it over our head that Bruce is nothing but a mere human.
So when Bruce last a second against a super human being, then it is pis, no matter how many times he's done it.
You can't tell me it's not pis when Bruce gets outsmarted by the likes of Joker, Bane or the Riddler, only for him to turn around and outsmarts the likes of Darkseid as shown in Loeb's Superman/Batman run.
EXACTLY Squall, Batman fanboys want it both ways. Either he is a meta, which makes his showing unimpressive or he is a human who simply can't do the things he does as portrayed. The other thing is how he over the years has become something he never was. Batman was not a ringer, he was a detective with decent fighting skill and weaponry.
Originally posted by SquallX
Not really.Like someone once said, DC has been beating it over our head that Bruce is nothing but a mere human.
So when Bruce last a second against a super human being, then it is pis, no matter how many times he's done it.
You can't tell me it's not pis when Bruce gets outsmarted by the likes of Joker, Bane or the Riddler, only for him to turn around and outsmarts the likes of Darkseid as shown in Loeb's Superman/Batman run.
When a party goer like Paris Hilton, who's also a business mogul like Bill Gates, Olympian level at gymnastics, bench pressing, knows and is an expert in 127 martial arts, speaks multiple language fluently, holds advanced degrees from multiple world class universities in multiple different fields, all by the age of 35 or so.....
The entire concept of Bats is PIS, lol. No mere human does all that.
He never outsmarted Darkseid. He called his bluff, and Darkseid believed him - because he saw HUMANS (not just Bruce) as creatures who would kill their own kind, just to win. IOW, Batman only 'won' because Darkseid believed him to be that much of a bastard. He hardly set riddles that Darkseid couldn't solve...
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
When a party goer like Paris Hilton, who's also a business mogul like Bill Gates, Olympian level at gymnastics, bench pressing, knows and is an expert in 127 martial arts, speaks multiple language fluently, holds advanced degrees from multiple world class universities in multiple different fields, all by the age of 35 or so.....The entire concept of Bats is PIS, lol. No mere human does all that.
He never outsmarted Darkseid. He called his bluff, and Darkseid believed him - because he saw HUMANS (not just Bruce) as creatures who would kill their own kind, just to win. IOW, Batman only 'won' because Darkseid believed him to be that much of a bastard. He hardly set riddles that Darkseid couldn't solve...
You can't have it both ways. DC's the one that keep saying Bruce is a mere human.
What do you call bluffing Darkseid into leaving supergirl alone if not pis. Darkseid is the Bastard that gaved away his own son just so he could have an edge against high father? Manipulated the the Greek Gods into weakening themselves, mind ****ed Dessad and making him into the monster he's become?
Hid himself and Apakolips from the Anti Monitor.
Yeah, Bruce bluffing Darkseid is clearly not pis.