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Originally posted by AuraAngel
Roshi has more destructive power than Goku. That is what you are saying.

(Note: GOKU not other characters.)

Roshi could overpower Goku in an energy beam clash

He'd beat Mystic Gohan and Vegetto in a energy beam clash since canon Vegeta never blew up a planet.

All this time and Goku still hasn't surpassed Jackie Chun.

Huh, guess the whole power level progression in the series was just smoke and mirrors

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
That's your opinion.

Straight up toe sucking (with a little pee on it) retarded.

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
[B]Goku is island without power scaling I don't even care what hardcore fanboys think its the truth he is only higher BECAUSE of power scaling not by HIS feats its only debaters basing off of other character feats.

Okay but it is not just hardcore fanboys that think this. I'm definitely not a DBZ fanboy, hardcore or otherwise. I do not despise it, it can be entertaining. You talk about feats, but Goku has feats of showing he has energy at levels far above people who planet busted.

Even people within the universe recognize this. Master Roshi realized that Goku as a child was already more or less on his level. Like it or not DBZ is built on ABC logic, it is not just the fans that do this, but the show itself.

But then please do explain how Goku had enough energy to defeat Frieza, but you for some reason think he couldn't destroy a planet..even though Frieza clearly could. Goku also clearly got even stronger then the levels he was at when he fought Frieza.

You also completely ignored the fact that when Goku had an attack aimed down at the planet everyone freaked out because they knew it would destroy the planet.

Also, do you feel Piccolo could defeat Goku in a fight? Just energy powers, who wins if they are both at their strongest?

Piccolo could defeat Mystic Gohan in an energy clash obviously.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
That's everyone who has ever seen DBZ except for your opinion.

Straight up toe sucking (with a little pee on it) retarded.

Originally posted by Surtur
Okay but it is not just hardcore fanboys that think this. I'm definitely not a DBZ fanboy, hardcore or otherwise. I do not despise it, it can be entertaining. You talk about feats, but Goku has feats of showing he has energy at levels far above people who planet busted.

Even people within the universe recognize this. Master Roshi realized that Goku as a child was already more or less on his level. Like it or not DBZ is built on ABC logic, it is not just the fans that do this, but the show itself.

But then please do explain how Goku had enough energy to defeat Frieza, but you for some reason think he couldn't destroy a planet..even though Frieza clearly could. Goku also clearly got even stronger then the levels he was at when he fought Frieza.

You also completely ignored the fact that when Goku had an attack aimed down at the planet everyone freaked out because they knew it would destroy the planet.

Also, do you feel Piccolo could defeat Goku in a fight? Just energy powers, who wins if they are both at their strongest?

You also completely ignored the fact that when Goku had an attack aimed down at the planet everyone freaked out because they knew it would destroy the planet.
again DBZ characters like frieza has to what hit the core? thanks for proving that logic to me something i been knew and if you state "Oh so you agree he is planet level." sadly nope i just know hitting a core=planet destruction same goes for vegeta not surviving earths destruction caused by Frieza disrupting the core.

Also, do you feel Piccolo could defeat Goku in a fight? Just energy powers, who wins if they are both at their strongest?
Energy powers? LMAO inconstant as well because we can assume whatever we want but as shown who actually busted a moon???? Piccolo or Goku also.....

Would Piccolo beat Mystic Gohan in an energy clash?

Its all based on assumptions.

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Its all based on assumptions.

Originally posted by Astner
Yes, but there's a difference between reasonable- and unreasonable assumptions.

My Assumption: Its nothing fact Assumptions ARENT facts.
*Hardcore DBZ fanboys bash*
DBZ Fanboys: Casual Multi-Galaxy blasts Duh right guys?
*Hardcore DBZ fanboys raise their hands in such thirst*

So again that means LITTLE if i dont see it! its not facts.

Freeza could, at his weakest, destroy a planet with a simple attack.

Goku effortlessly bested him in a ki exchange on Namek after giving Freeza some of his own ki.

So we assume Goku can blow up a planet because he beat a much stronger Freeza at a ki-clash.

Why is that unreasonable?

Probably because Goku was attacking downward when the ki clash occurred and the planet didn't blow up? 😐

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Probably because Goku was attacking downward when the ki clash occurred and the planet didn't blow up? 😐

Why would Goku want to blow up the planet? Why would Goku want to destroy any planet?

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Why would Goku want to blow up the planet? Why would Goku want to destroy any planet?

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Using the frame set that's been seen in this thread, Goku shot downwards to defeat a stronger Frieza's attack, because Goku's attack didn't blow up the planet the attack Frieza used was not capable of busting planets. Therefore Goku didn not demonstrate planet busting power in that instance. 😕

http://killermovies.wikia.com/wiki/Goku
Gokus Profile.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Using the frame set that's been seen in this thread, Goku shot downwards to defeat a stronger Frieza's attack, because Goku's attack didn't blow up the planet the attack Frieza used was not capable of busting planets. Therefore Goku didn not demonstrate planet busting power in that instance. 😕

So you believe Goku would lose in a beam clash to Roshi, Piccolo, and base Freeza?