The problem with this "scandal" is some people out there are acting like Planned Parenthood is some kind of living sentient being. That is the only way it would make sense to get rid of the program entirely. The easy solution would be to just hire new people, so why do those calling for it to be closed down not think this is the better option? Unless, like I said, they feel this place is sentient and anyone working for it will sooner or later be corrupted by this "force".
Otherwise that is like saying get rid of all cops because a small percentage have been cops. Get rid of all teachers because a small percentage bang their students. Get rid of all doctors because some of them have done shady illegal shit. Get rid of every single politician because some in the past have been corrupt.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
I think the worry is that the organization already functions within specific values and have (thru the years) hired/staffed itself with ppl of like minds. You could get rid of the ones in the top positions, but their replacements won't be any better.
So then why not get rid of all cops? You have a corrupt cop, you can't guarantee the replacement would be any less corrupt. No more teachers, you can't guarantee the next teacher hired will not bang a student.
I mean, if there is no way to determine if the person they are hiring for planned parenthood is any better then the predecessor...well, you sure as hell have no way of determining similar things for cops, teachers, politicians, people in the army, etc.
So why are people not worried about this? Cops and teachers can have a much more profound effect on society then selling dead baby parts.
Originally posted by Surtur
So then why not get rid of all cops? You have a corrupt cop, you can't guarantee the replacement would be any less corrupt. No more teachers, you can't guarantee the next teacher hired will not bang a student.I mean, if there is no way to determine if the person they are hiring for planned parenthood is any better then the predecessor...well, you sure as hell have no way of determining similar things for cops, teachers, politicians, people in the army, etc.
So why are people not worried about this? Cops and teachers can have a much more profound effect on society then selling dead baby parts.
Not quite the same.
Firstly, police/teachers are ppl that provide irreplaceable essential services to the community. PP, tho it provides important services as well, is not the only women's health provider out there.
Secondly, you're equivocating PP (a single NPO) to all police or all teachers. A single organization to every single person of a specific service/profession.
Of course we don't fire every teacher/police. Every school/precint has their own culture and has their own good/bad apples. So we handle them on a per precinct/school basis the same way we don't defund ALL NPO's just because (assuming) PP is one bad apple.
Yet some would argue PP is an essential service too. Any way you slice it, it's important enough that it makes no sense to say "get rid of this entirely" as opposed to just "hire new people, enact stricter guidelines".
But if you want to say it is just a single organization, then we don't need to use such a general term as all cops. We can just say that if a specific department shows it has a corrupt cop..it should be shut down.
If a teacher bangs a student, the school the teacher taught at should be shut down. Are those better examples?
Originally posted by Surtur
Yet some would argue PP is an essential service too. Any way you slice it, it's important enough that it makes no sense to say "get rid of this entirely" as opposed to just "hire new people, enact stricter guidelines".But if you want to say it is just a single organization, then we don't need to use such a general term as all cops. We can just say that if a specific department shows it has a corrupt cop..it should be shut down.
If a teacher bangs a student, the school the teacher taught at should be shut down. Are those better examples?
Better example would be:
"Entire department with deep seeded corruption within its culture".
Not saying that this is the case with PP, however, just that the fear that this is the case (plus, yknow, politics) is probably what is spurring ppl to call for its defunding.