Count Dooku vs Darth Maul

Oh I've not gone anywhere Quanchi. I'm your worst Nightmare MUHAHAHA

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are getting destroyed and your hypocrisy is being displayed by multiple posters.

You really want to compare who gets called out as a Hypocrytical Troll by the most number of posters? LOL

Originally posted by quanchi112
Windu has a better track record than Yoda the guy couldn't best his own Padawan.

Yoda's confirmed as The Most Powerful Jedi and Best Swordsman multiple times in the films. Not Windu. Deal with it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It shows he can keep up with Sheev. Sheev is greater than Dooku so you can't deny it,

Except he couldn't keep up with Sheev. He got Destroyed. Completely and Utterly Humiliated. TK Stomped, Any Second Sheev Chose to do so.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sheev beat Yoda.
😂

Kenobi beat Maul TWICE.

Dooku trashed Kenobi THRICE.

^ That's what you call relevance to the debate at hand.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Dooku just threaten his fallen allies before fleeing against his old master. Abc fails.

Yes Dooku fought admirably and escaped his Old Master (who happens to be The Most Powerful Jedi).

Maul got HUMILIATED by his Old Master.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Anakin crushed Dooku.

But Maul didn't.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You said his stamina was off against Anakin. You brought this point up.

No, I said his Stamina was off against Anakin AND Kenobi. Stop acting/being purposefully retarded.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He has more powerful strikes just like Anakin does.

That's your Made up fantasy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Dooku doesn't use powerful strikes but instead uses precise strikes. We also see how powerful Maul was against his opponents due to his aggressive style which isn't anything like Kenobis but instead more like Anakin's.

So being Aggressive gives one as much Power as The Chosen One? LOL

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sheev begged Windu for mercy. That's the same guy you claim can own Windu so again facts don't matter. I give you the same scenario and it suddenly changes.

What does that have to do with Dooku vs Maul? All your proving is Maul is as big a coward as his Master LOL

Well done Dummy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Dooku was shocked. He went to his death like a lackey devoid of a will to survive.

He went out like a Boss. Destroying Kenobi while simultaneously Kick Slamming Skywalker to the floor. Then accepted his fate like a man.

Maul was really pathetic when he thought he's going to die. Honestly I was really disappointed in that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He defeated Kenobi and had to protect his brother.

Stop making excuses for him running away. The damn opening cookie states "Strength in Character DEFEATS Strength in Numbers."

They couldn't make it more clear than that. If you want commentary outright saying He was Defeated by Kenobi I can give you that as well. However the Mod has stated no commentary, but the Opening Cookie will suffice.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's a win. Thor passes out after he did so.
😂

No THOR Doesn't pass out.

And it's for you to Prove Kenobi was Passed Out. Instead of just making your fantasy claims as usual.

Maul Ran, The Opening Nugget Confirms Kenobi beat the Combined might of Maul and Opress TOGETHER. You're Grasping at Straws as Usual.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Kenobi never best Vizsla. Never.

Liar.

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He was battered and downed and outmatched at 1:30 then Cries to his men for help.

Compare that to how long it takes Maul to defeat Vizsla:

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There's no comparison LOL

Originally posted by quanchi112
Abc logic. Dooku was taken captive by Hondo. He was also held with Kenobi and Anakin. Was Maul ?? **** no. More proof Maul is greater, fanboy.

😬

Maul lost his legs to those pirates.

Your points are Terrible. Just Horrible. It's almost as if you actually Want me to Humiliate you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
And Kenobi couldn't get back to maul there, dumbass.

He was chasing him Dummy. That's why Maul was running. He was BFR'd for like 10 seconds. That's a Win to you? Jeez how desperate are you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Maul won. Same logic. You avoid it because you're an idiot.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Prove it. Oh wait he bested him in every fight skill wise but you ignore it. You're a blabbering fool.

I'm sure Maul did All those things in your personal fantasy world.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Due to killing his brother which definitely affected him but somehow the killing of Qui years ago is a pass for Kenobi. You're a fool. Abc logic.

I have no idea what you're talking about here, but it sounds like your grasping for straws as usual.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Dude, you are beings called out as a hypocrite. You are and an idiotic one at that. Your own reasoning is just a series of double standards and excuses. You're an awful debater who is just a hypocrite who whines and runs away a lot.

Oh don't you worry, I'll deal with your 2 friends 1 by 1. But you can stop worrying about that and fight your own battles you coward.

You've given nothing Maul has on Dooku. Not 1 things. Zero evidence. Just Fantasy Non-Existent ABC Logic:

Anakin Beat Dooku (immediately after Dooku just beat Kenobi).

Maul beat Anakin (in Quanchi's Imagination).

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Oh I've not gone anywhere Quanchi. I'm your worst Nightmare MUHAHAHA

You really want to compare who gets called out as a Hypocrytical Troll by the most number of posters? LOL

Yoda's confirmed as The Most Powerful Jedi and Best Swordsman multiple times in the films. Not Windu. Deal with it.

Except he couldn't keep up with Sheev. He got Destroyed. Completely and Utterly Humiliated. TK Stomped, Any Second Sheev Chose to do so.

Kenobi beat Maul TWICE.

Dooku trashed Kenobi THRICE.

^ That's what you call relevance to the debate at hand.

Yes Dooku fought admirably and escaped his Old Master (who happens to be The Most Powerful Jedi).

Maul got HUMILIATED by his Old Master.

But Maul didn't.

No, I said his Stamina was off against Anakin AND Kenobi. Stop acting/being purposefully retarded.

That's your Made up fantasy.

So being Aggressive gives one as much Power as The Chosen One? LOL

What does that have to do with Dooku vs Maul? All your proving is Maul is as big a coward as his Master LOL

Well done Dummy.

He went out like a Boss. Destroying Kenobi while simultaneously Kick Slamming Skywalker to the floor. Then accepted his fate like a man.

Maul was really pathetic when he thought he's going to die. Honestly I was really disappointed in that.

Stop making excuses for him running away. The damn opening cookie states "Strength in Character DEFEATS Strength in Numbers."

They couldn't make it more clear than that. If you want commentary outright saying He was Defeated by Kenobi I can give you that as well. However the Mod has stated no commentary, but the Opening Cookie will suffice.

No THOR Doesn't pass out.

And it's for you to Prove Kenobi was Passed Out. Instead of just making your fantasy claims as usual.

Maul Ran, The Opening Nugget Confirms Kenobi beat the Combined might of Maul and Opress TOGETHER. You're Grasping at Straws as Usual.

Liar.

?v=_Vtj5YxDcCk

He was battered and downed and outmatched at 1:30 then Cries to his men for help.

Compare that to how long it takes Maul to defeat Vizsla:

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There's no comparison LOL

😬

Maul lost his legs to those pirates.

Your points are Terrible. Just Horrible. It's almost as if you actually Want me to Humiliate you.

He was chasing him Dummy. That's why Maul was running. He was BFR'd for like 10 seconds. That's a Win to you? Jeez how desperate are you.

I'm sure Maul did All those things in your personal fantasy world.

I have no idea what you're talking about here, but it sounds like your grasping for straws as usual.

Oh don't you worry, I'll deal with your 2 friends 1 by 1. But you can stop worrying about that and fight your own battles you coward.

You've given nothing Maul has on Dooku. Not 1 things. Zero evidence. Just Fantasy Non-Existent ABC Logic:

Anakin Beat Dooku (immediately after Dooku just beat Kenobi).

Maul beat Anakin (in Quanchi's Imagination).

Yoda is the most powerful but the best swordsman gtfo. He didn't best Dooku and lost to Sidious. Facts. Deal with them not blanket statements.

He did keep up and he successfully kicked Sheev. Sheev marveled at the fact he survived his injuries and called him a rival. Those are facts. You saying he got destroyed is an opinion.

Kenobi beat him once due to Maul taunting after he had him in a vulnerable position. Skill wise Maul bested him and every battle since then Kenobi fled, passed out, or was Bfrd into defeat. Kenobi bested Anakin who killed Dooku so abc logic fails here. Quit citing irrelevant shit because you ignore their fighting styles being vastly different due to your own personal biases.

Sheev bested Yoda. Dooku threatened the lives of Yoda's allies which allowed him the time to escape. The fact Yoda was unable to prevent this due to the slow tk feats while he stood idly by with the sabers locked is unforgivable for Yoda and shows Dooku didn't just take him head on. 💃

Maul never faced Dooku. Dooku died. Poor thing.

In a relatively short time. Maul's stamina wasn't off against Kenobi and Qui in a much longer duration of time. Advantage Maul, kiddo.

No, it isn't. We see it plain as day.

I am referencing the powerful attacking styles which are similar. Anakin despite his power lost to Kenobi. We see the aggressive style of Anakin was a problem for Dooku whereas Kenobi's defensive style was something Dooku really had an easier time of countering and dealing with.

Mauk isn't a coward. He faced and resisted Sheev despite this experience. A coward runs from a challenge or fear. He didn't. He wanted pain to stop so that's actually trying to use his cunning. Either way he was never a coward.

You are a fool.

No, he was shocked and realized he was played. Instead of even objecting his accepted his fate like a used whore. What an utter lackey.

Maul came back with more resistance in son of dathomir. He actually wants to live unlike Dooku who accepts death without even so much as an objection.

I am explaining the facts of the situation. His bother was hurt and Maul successfully Bfrd him which is a win. Bfr is a win. Kenobi was prevented from getting back at him thus he lost similar to Thor knocking the Hulk off the planet before passing out himself. 💃

He passed out after he knocked Hulk off the planet, liar. I never said Kenobi did I just said he was Bfrd.

A Bfr is a win.

That isn't losing that is using his advantages. Sheev had men look for Yoda does that mean he forfeited the fight ?

Maul defeats Vizsla whereas Kenobi flees. You make no sense and don't go with the facts.

He lost one leg due to the Pirates and still SUCCESSFULLY ESCAPED. Dooku was caught and initially escaped without even a fight. I guess his strength of character knew he couldn't even escape the strength of numbers. Hondo's pirates.

A win is a win, ten seconds is a knockout. 😂

You're biased and won't ever get it.

Play stupid to avoid the point. You are really bad at debating.

You give Kenobi a pass since his master was killed by Maul years prior but chastise Maul when Palaptine killed him less than five minutes ago. You change your criteria from showing to showing and use double standards all the time.

One on one we see Anakin raped Dooku very quickly. Maul would beat Anakin IMO as well. I never said it happened I said based off the evidence and their fighting styles I believe this to be true.

Dooku has superior force powers and Lightsaber abilities. He can handle Obi wan and Anakin at once while maul can only handle Obi wan. Dooku has better training, more experience and better accolades. He lasted longer against Yoda than Maul did agaisnt Sidious, with Yoda being possibly the better lightsaber combatant of the two. So that alone puts Dooku above Maul.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Dooku has superior force powers and Lightsaber abilities. He can handle Obi wan and Anakin at once while maul can only handle Obi wan. Dooku has better training, more experience and better accolades. He lasted longer against Yoda than Maul did agaisnt Sidious, with Yoda being possibly the better lightsaber combatant of the two. So that alone puts Dooku above Maul.

Sheev beat Yoda and the only reason Dooku lasted longer against Yoda was because he kept attacking the wounded friends of Yoda. 😂

Anything else, boy ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Superior force powers won't win the battle over Maul. His force lightning is father weak. Maul took on Kenobi and Qui, dummy. Dooku failed against skywalker alone. Dooku is older, slower, and has far worse stamina due to being a geriatric.

Sheev beat Yoda and the only reason Dooku lasted longer against Yoda was because he kept attacking the wounded friends of Yoda. 😂

Anything else, boy ?

Who says? Superior force powers will win a battle over maul. Look at sidious vs maul. Sidious owned them at the start with the force. Capable of knocking people unconscious and sense Dooku already knocked out Anakin. Capable of killing. What feats does Qui Gon ahve to compete with either Anakin or Obi in ROTS? When have those physical handicaps ever proved a real problem. Especially when she's beaten several opponents younger than him.

Yoda won the lightsaber battle as confirmed by the ROTS script. Dooku didn't threaten Anakin and Obi until the end of the duel.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Who says? Superior force powers will win a battle over maul. Look at sidious vs maul. Sidious owned them at the start with the force. Capable of knocking people unconscious and sense Dooku already knocked out Anakin. Capable of killing. What feats does Qui Gon ahve to compete with either Anakin or Obi in ROTS? When have those physical handicaps ever proved a real problem. Especially when she's beaten several opponents younger than him.

Yoda won the lightsaber battle as confirmed by the ROTS script. Dooku didn't threaten Anakin and Obi until the end of the duel.

In rots.

That isn't winning the battle. He lost the battle. Sidious was never at his mercy. Sidious win the fight and as per Starwars.com

http://www.starwars.com/news/the-starwars-com-10-best-jedi

Mace Windu bested Sidious something Yoda was unable to do. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
They didn't win over Kenobi. Maul has always been better than Kenobi. Anakin was an idiot then and later killed Dooku. Qui trained Kenobi and Maul bested Kenobi in the clone wars series.

In rots.

That isn't winning the battle. He lost the battle. Sidious was never at his mercy. Sidious win the fight and as per Starwars.com

http://www.starwars.com/news/the-starwars-com-10-best-jedi

Mace Windu bested Sidious something Yoda was unable to do. 😂

https://youtu.be/eYT3ctPuVRw 1:46-1:58 You were saying? Maul and Kenobi roughly equal with Kenobi having a slight edge. Showing Anakins superiority to Dooku. Qui training him means nothing. Remember how maul had help from his brother and still didn't beat Kenobi.

He won the lightsaber battle. Keyword lightsaber battle. So again going 37 seconds with Yoda is better than 24 seconds with Sidious. Movie feats only. Stick to the rules.

Again. Yoda disamred Sidious as well. Lightsaber duel, Yoda is better, slightly since Mace had a little boost there to help him.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
https://youtu.be/eYT3ctPuVRw 1:46-1:58 You were saying? Maul and Kenobi roughly equal with Kenobi having a slight edge. Showing Anakins superiority to Dooku. Qui training him means nothing. Remember how maul had help from his brother and still didn't beat Kenobi.

He won the lightsaber battle. Keyword lightsaber battle. So again going 37 seconds with Yoda is better than 24 seconds with Sidious. Movie feats only. Stick to the rules.

Again. Yoda disamred Sidious as well. Lightsaber duel, Yoda is better, slightly since Mace had a little boost there to help him.

Maul Bfrd and beat him. Prior to this fight Kenobi admitted he couldn't best maul.

No, it isn't since Sidious beat Yoda. Yoda was unable to best him. Dooku only survived that long due to attacking Yoda's allies. Circumstances were vastly different.

Movie feats only so there is no mention of a boost in the film. Windu bested Sheev whereas Yoda failed. Sidious cackled at Yoda but he begged for his life against Windu. Facts. Deal with it, kid.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That is skill during combat. He didn't just use those powers at the onset but during a pivotal moment.

Maul Bfrd and beat him. Prior to this fight Kenobi admitted he couldn't best maul.

No, it isn't since Sidious beat Yoda. Yoda was unable to best him. Dooku only survived that long due to attacking Yoda's allies. Circumstances were vastly different.

Movie feats only so there is no mention of a boost in the film. Windu bested Sheev whereas Yoda failed. Sidious cackled at Yoda but he begged for his life against Windu. Facts. Deal with it, kid.

Again when he used it doesn't matter. Dooku took Obi wan down with the force as seen in the video. That isnt debatable.

With assistance from his brother. However once Ventress showed up, Kenobi took maul on one on one and seemed to be taking maul on quite well, it looked like he was winning.

He bested him in saber combat as confirmed by the script. Prove it. He didn't threaten Obi and Ani until the end dummy.

So no official website Quan. Stick to the rules. Both bested him in saber combat. Remember how he's confirmed to be faking weakness. Ohh if we can't use commentaries, he goes from I'm to weak to POWERRRR!!!. Facts.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Again when he used it doesn't matter. Dooku took Obi wan down with the force as seen in the video. That isnt debatable.

With assistance from his brother. However once Ventress showed up, Kenobi took maul on one on one and seemed to be taking maul on quite well, it looked like he was winning.

He bested him in saber combat as confirmed by the script. Prove it. He didn't threaten Obi and Ani until the end dummy.

So no official website Quan. Stick to the rules. Both bested him in saber combat. Remember how he's confirmed to be faking weakness. Ohh if we can't use commentaries, he goes from I'm to weak to POWERRRR!!!. Facts.

Kenobi admitted he can't win after maul manipulated him.

So what ? He lost as confirmed in the film and by the site. Dooku did that to escape.

I am and by the film Windu had him at his mercy. Nowhere in the film does it state Sidious threw the fight. 😂

Nothing in the film says he feigns weakness not that it matters since I explained why. You're a biased fool.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Using it at the right moment matters since he couldn't just do this at will. We have seen far too many fights where he can't just own Obi.

Kenobi admitted he can't win after maul manipulated him.

So what ? He lost as confirmed in the film and by the site. Dooku did that to escape.

I am and by the film Windu had him at his mercy. Nowhere in the film does it state Sidious threw the fight. 😂

Nothing in the film says he feigns weakness not that it matters since I explained why. You're a biased fool.

Again you concede as you said the force powers didn't work on Kenobi. I showed you that they did. Concession accepted.

After he manipulated him. What was going on before? https://youtu.be/DlJiphrbLyg 0:24-1:09 I see them as evenly matched with Kenobi having an edge there. 😂

He didn't "lose" the fight. In actuality the battle ended as neither being able to seize the advantage over the other. Yoda just happened to g t the wrong end of the stick at the wrong time.

Had him at his mercy? A master of force lightning(who still has his hands) is never powerless. Also,he's confirmed as a jar Kai specialist in TCW and by Dave Filoni to have two sabers in ROTS. What sense does it make to not have two sabers at one time. Sidious is a master of the force, and he showed he could have defended himself with force lightning or used his force power in some other way shape or form.

How do you go from. I'm to weak, I can't hold it any longer. Then a few seconds later he springs back to life saying power and shooting torrents of lightning, that shoots Windu out of a Windu. He was faking it.

QUOTE=15416759]Originally posted by quanchi112
I get called out because I challenge biases and fanaticism. [/QUOTE]

You get called out for being a TROLL.

I get called out BY TROLLS, for breaking down their TROLLING.

See the difference LMAO

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yoda is the most powerful but the best swordsman gtfo. He didn't best Dooku and lost to Sidious. Facts. Deal with them not blanket statements.

He's the Most Powerful All-Out Combatant. And the Best Swordsman in the Jedi Order as confrimed by Kenobi.

No one IN or OUT the films Anywhere, said or implied Mace was the best Swordsman.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He did keep up and he successfully kicked Sheev.

LOL

He lasted 20 seconds before getting disarmed, smacked and bashed around all over the place.

Dooku did miles and miles better against Sidious's Equal. Sidious failed to Overpower Yoda in Sabers. Then failed to Overpower in Force Powers.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sheev marveled at the fact he survived his injuries and called him a rival. Those are facts.

Irrelevant to combat. Try to stay on topic Troll.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You saying he got destroyed is an opinion.

LOL No it's there for eneryone to see. It's Fact. Deal with it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Kenobi beat him once due to Maul taunting after he had him in a vulnerable position. Skill wise Maul bested him and every battle since then Kenobi fled,

Ah right, so it's Ok for Maul to LOSE if he taunts Kenobi because that doesn't really count right, but If him Taunting Kenobi helps him to Win then "That totally counts."

I'm getting bored pointing out Your Double Standards.

Originally posted by quanchi112
passed out, or was Bfrd into defeat.

He wasn't passed out, or BFR'd, and he needed Opress's to Tire Kenobi out 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Kenobi bested Anakin who killed Dooku so abc logic fails here.

LOL That's not abc. That's Maul >/= Kenobi > Anakin > Dooku which is ABCD! That's too long a line to make a reliable reasoning out of and you know it.

Dooku thrashed Kenobi 3/3 times. Maul failed to beat Kenobi 3/3 times.

That's what you call Real and Relevant ABC.

You keep denying the facts, I keep rubbing the Truth in your face 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Quit citing irrelevant shit because you ignore their fighting styles being vastly different due to your own personal biases.

It's not irrelevant at all.

Dooku's simply >> Kenobi. Maul isn't.

Would Maul put up a better fight against Dooku than Kenobi did due to fighting styles? Possibly. But it won't make him his Equal, as Dooku is better in every category.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sheev bested Yoda. Dooku threatened the lives of Yoda's allies which allowed him the time to escape. The fact Yoda was unable to prevent this due to the slow tk feats while he stood idly by with the sabers locked is unforgivable for Yoda and shows Dooku didn't just take him head on. 💃

So your proving how well Dooku did against Yoda 👆

Originally posted by quanchi112
Maul never faced Dooku. Dooku died. Poor thing.

Maul clearly wasn't important enough for Sidious to kill.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In a relatively short time. Maul's stamina wasn't off against Kenobi and Qui in a much longer duration of time. Advantage Maul, kiddo.

You clearly don't understand Stamina. It's not just about how long you last.

But it's about the intensity you face.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am referencing the powerful attacking styles which are similar. Anakin despite his power lost to Kenobi. We see the aggressive style of Anakin was a problem for Dooku whereas Kenobi's defensive style was something Dooku really had an easier time of countering and dealing with.

Completely Unsubstantiated reasoning.

Dooku fended off an Aggressive, Offensive assault by Yoda.

This the best you can do? LOL. You have absolutely nothing to back up your claims of Maul>Dooku LOL

Originally posted by quanchi112
Mauk isn't a coward. He faced and resisted Sheev despite this experience. A coward runs from a challenge or fear. He didn't. He wanted pain to stop so that's actually trying to use his cunning. Either way he was never a coward.

He begged for Mercy. Tried Crawling away. If that's not a Coward, I don't know what is.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he was shocked and realized he was played. Instead of even objecting his accepted his fate like a used whore. What an utter lackey.

He took it like a man. And kicked some serious butt before going down.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Maul came back with more resistance in son of dathomir. He actually wants to live unlike Dooku who accepts death without even so much as an objection.

Getting pretty Irrelevant to the topic again.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am explaining the facts of the situation. His bother was hurt and Maul successfully Bfrd him which is a win. Bfr is a win.

Except he didn't Bfr him. He separated Kenobi giving him time to escape.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Kenobi was prevented from getting back at him thus he lost similar to Thor knocking the Hulk off the planet before passing out himself. 💃

Getting hit off the planet = getting thrown into a cave which you walk right out of?

I'm sure that makes perfect sense to a Retard.

Originally posted by quanchi112

A Bfr is a win.

"Strength in Character DEFEATS Strength in Numbers" - Opening nugget of episode where Kenobi beats Maul/Opress LOL

How does it feel Losing to me all the time LOL

Originally posted by quanchi112
That isn't losing that is using his advantages. Sheev had men look for Yoda does that mean he forfeited the fight ?

Yes Ask Why he didn't Chase Yoda himself is he was So Superior LMAO

Wow you just love getting Trashed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Maul defeats Vizsla whereas Kenobi flees. You make no sense and don't go with the facts.

Getting Pretty Desperate TROLL.

Kenobi ran Vizslas's men. He defeated Vizsla much much quicker than Maul could.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He lost one leg due to the Pirates and still SUCCESSFULLY ESCAPED. Dooku was caught and initially escaped without even a fight. I guess his strength of character knew he couldn't even escape the strength of numbers. Hondo's pirates.

Perhaps because he wasn't completely surrounded and had aid from his Brother, and had a Ship ready to escape on... Dumb Ass.

Originally posted by quanchi112
A win is a win, ten seconds is a knockout. 😂

Oh so suddenly Boxing rules apply. 2 v 1 is an automatic disqualification in that case.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You're biased and won't ever get it.

Play stupid to avoid the point. You are really bad at debating.

Not sure who your trying to convince.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You give Kenobi a pass since his master was killed by Maul years prior but chastise Maul when Palaptine killed him less than five minutes ago. You change your criteria from showing to showing and use double standards all the time.

"Your Rage has Unbalanced you" Maul to Kenobi. He Raged him purposefully because he was losing previously.

Maul was no threat to Sidious in the first place.

Originally posted by quanchi112
One on one we see Anakin raped Dooku very quickly. Maul would beat Anakin IMO as well. I never said it happened I said based off the evidence and their fighting styles I believe this to be true.

It's all in your head.

All this ranting above. All the lying, all the double standards..

Yet ZERO Evidence to support your conclusion.

That is called The Way Of The Troll.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Again you concede as you said the force powers didn't work on Kenobi. I showed you that they did. Concession accepted.

After he manipulated him. What was going on before? https://youtu.be/DlJiphrbLyg 0:24-1:09 I see them as evenly matched with Kenobi having an edge there. 😂

He didn't "lose" the fight. In actuality the battle ended as neither being able to seize the advantage over the other. Yoda just happened to g t the wrong end of the stick at the wrong time.

Had him at his mercy? A master of force lightning(who still has his hands) is never powerless. Also,he's confirmed as a jar Kai specialist in TCW and by Dave Filoni to have two sabers in ROTS. What sense does it make to not have two sabers at one time. Sidious is a master of the force, and he showed he could have defended himself with force lightning or used his force power in some other way shape or form.

How do you go from. I'm to weak, I can't hold it any longer. Then a few seconds later he springs back to life saying power and shooting torrents of lightning, that shoots Windu out of a Windu. He was faking it.

He didn't best maul so it's speculative.

Yoda lost and the site agrees. He does have two sabers but he never says at the time of the fight. Common sense and nothing you say makes any sense.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
QUOTE=15416759]Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]I get called out because I challenge biases and fanaticism.

You get called out for being a TROLL.

I get called out BY TROLLS, for breaking down their TROLLING.

See the difference LMAO

He's the Most Powerful All-Out Combatant. And the Best Swordsman in the Jedi Order as confrimed by Kenobi.

No one IN or OUT the films Anywhere, said or implied Mace was the best Swordsman.

LOL

He lasted 20 seconds before getting disarmed, smacked and bashed around all over the place.

Dooku did miles and miles better against Sidious's Equal. Sidious failed to Overpower Yoda in Sabers. Then failed to Overpower in Force Powers.

Irrelevant to combat. Try to stay on topic Troll.

LOL No it's there for eneryone to see. It's Fact. Deal with it.

Ah right, so it's Ok for Maul to LOSE if he taunts Kenobi because that doesn't really count right, but If him Taunting Kenobi helps him to Win then "That totally counts."

I'm getting bored pointing out Your Double Standards.

He wasn't passed out, or BFR'd, and he needed Opress's to Tire Kenobi out 😂

LOL That's not abc. That's Maul >/= Kenobi > Anakin > Dooku which is ABCD! That's too long a line to make a reliable reasoning out of and you know it.

Dooku thrashed Kenobi 3/3 times. Maul failed to beat Kenobi 3/3 times.

That's what you call Real and Relevant ABC.

You keep denying the facts, I keep rubbing the Truth in your face 😂

It's not irrelevant at all.

Dooku's simply >> Kenobi. Maul isn't.

Would Maul put up a better fight against Dooku than Kenobi did due to fighting styles? Possibly. But it won't make him his Equal, as Dooku is better in every category.

So your proving how well Dooku did against Yoda 👆

Maul clearly wasn't important enough for Sidious to kill.

You clearly don't understand Stamina. It's not just about how long you last.

But it's about the intensity you face.

Completely Unsubstantiated reasoning.

Dooku fended off an Aggressive, Offensive assault by Yoda.

This the best you can do? LOL. You have absolutely nothing to back up your claims of Maul>Dooku LOL

He begged for Mercy. Tried Crawling away. If that's not a Coward, I don't know what is.

He took it like a man. And kicked some serious butt before going down.

Getting pretty Irrelevant to the topic again.

Except he didn't Bfr him. He separated Kenobi giving him time to escape.

Getting hit off the planet = getting thrown into a cave which you walk right out of?

I'm sure that makes perfect sense to a Retard.

"Strength in Character DEFEATS Strength in Numbers" - Opening nugget of episode where Kenobi beats Maul/Opress LOL

How does it feel Losing to me all the time LOL

Yes Ask Why he didn't Chase Yoda himself is he was So Superior LMAO

Wow you just love getting Trashed.

Getting Pretty Desperate TROLL.

Kenobi ran Vizslas's men. He defeated Vizsla much much quicker than Maul could.

Perhaps because he wasn't completely surrounded and had aid from his Brother, and had a Ship ready to escape on... Dumb Ass.

Oh so suddenly Boxing rules apply. 2 v 1 is an automatic disqualification in that case.

Not sure who your trying to convince.

"Your Rage has Unbalanced you" Maul to Kenobi. He Raged him purposefully because he was losing previously.

Maul was no threat to Sidious in the first place.

It's all in your head.

All this ranting above. All the lying, all the double standards..

Yet ZERO Evidence to support your conclusion.

That is called The Way Of The Troll. [/B][/QUOTE] You can't see the forest for the trees. You never will, troll.

Character statements are just the opinions of the character especially when we see otherwise. I judge myself and based on facts not what some idiot named Kenobi thinks.

You are discounting the previous time in the duel and just focusing on the last part thus changing facts to support your fanatical claims.

Sidious bested Yoda so again you ignore what you see because you're a troll and do not look at the context of any of it. Dooku threatened the lives of Anakin and Kenobi so it wasn't just some one on one duel, troll. Sidious knocked Yoda down and he fled the scene. He retained the higher ground and sent Yoda careening off the pod.

So you ignore his character statements but highlight Kenobi's.

No, that is an opinion based off a fight. You're wrong.

He disarmed him so he was without a weapon so I analyze what I see. Kenobi left the battle as he was being beaten. Maul channels his anger better than weak Kenobi so deal with it.

He passed out in the clone wars after his ship was brought down. Khan jumped out of his crash and went on to fight. Kenobi's pansy ass went out. Suck it up. At no point was it mentioned Opress severely tired him out. Maul took on Qui and you make no mention of Maul fatiguing so you're a double standard using troll.

They don't fight the same at all so it is abc logic.

It has no bearing on this fight. Maul was better than him in every single fight and you lie.

How these guys match up to Kenobi has no bearing on this because Kenobi beat Anakin and Anakin killed Dooku. That was so easy, dummy.

You ignore that he didn't do so to skill but threatening the lives of others thus undermining your shitty point.

False, and Talzin disagreed as well. Read the son of dathomir you troll.

Yes, I do maul maintains that intensity the entire time unlike Dooku who tired in a much shorter duration of time.

Dooku fled quickly after he threatened the lives of Yoda's allies. Irrelevant.

Maul is younger, has greater stamina, is more athletic, and fights with powerful strikes similar to Anakin's style which was responsible for the death of Dooku.

The same thing Sidious did who was Dooku's master. Maul opposed him and wouldn't just go to his death but Dooku did like the lackey he is.

He went down like the typical patsy.

Irony.

He Bfrd Kenobi who couldn't get back to him. That's a Bfr, dummy.

Distance doesn't matter it's a ring out which you can't get back to. Same result, dummy.

Kenobi never bested Maul so you're wrong but he did effectively Bfr Kenobi. 😂

No, because you're an idiot. Using your men to help kill or bring in is called intelligence.

So asking for aid means he was beaten ? Are you an idiot ?

He had to aid his brother at the time because he was injured. He was slowing maul down. Dooku just accepted it and was captured later with Anakin and Obi. That's more help and he went under Hondo's capture.

These are rules of this board. Ko doesn't have to last for 25 hours.

It doesn't matter whatever the reason was he got the better of Kenobi.

Not according to Sheev but you pick and choose what we should listen to and ignore the rest.

Irony. You're a troll and I've thoroughly stomped you. You're an embarrassment on this board. All I've cited was evidence and cited how these guys match up not ridiculous abc logic.

Kenobi bested the guy who you claim Dooku owns. Abc logic, loser.

😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Force powers at the right time. Far more examples of fights when Dooku doesn't best him with force powers at the right time.

He didn't best maul so it's speculative.

Yoda lost and the site agrees. He does have two sabers but he never says at the time of the fight. Common sense and nothing you say makes any sense.

So You're saying that Dooku couldn't telekinetic control kenobi in AOTC. Plenty of opportunities were opened. You're saying he couldn't?

He will beat maul though, so it doesn't matter lol.

So because he never says he has them at the same time means he doesn't? Common sense would say he has them on him at the same time.

I don't really know what you're arguing about so I don't know who's right or wrong. But you really ask your opponent to prove a negative.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So You're saying that Dooku couldn't telekinetic control kenobi in AOTC. Plenty of opportunities were opened. You're saying he couldn't?

He will beat maul though, so it doesn't matter lol.

So because he never says he has them at the same time means he doesn't? Common sense would say he has them on him at the same time.

The onus is on you to prove it which you haven't.

If that's your claim then you need to prove it. I own two sets of car keys but don't carry them with me whenever I go somewhere

Originally posted by Nibedicus
I don't really know what you're arguing about so I don't know who's right or wrong. But you really ask your opponent to prove a negative.

If youre addressing me, I'm just asking him a question.

1. Can dooku TK obi whenever.

2. Dooku vs Maul

3. Sidious having two sabers in ROTS fight.

These are the questions being asked and Debated.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You have no grasp of how to debate at all. I'm saying he didn't.

The onus is on you to prove it which you haven't.

If that's your claim then you need to prove it. I own two sets of car keys but don't carry them with me whenever I go somewhere

Didn't doesn't translate to can't. Shame you don't understand.

Superior force powers and dueling skills, he has better feats, he's taken power blows and even beaten duelist with those types of strength blows. Beaten Kenobi who is maul's equal or slight superior, and Anakin, maul's superior, held his own agaisnt Yoda without help, lifted ten of stone obalisk without strain, broken through the force shields of opposing force weilders, and so much more. Maul has nothing to compare.

Car keys don't determine a difference between life and death. Sidious is a confirmed jar Kai duel blade fencer. He had two blades in ROTS so he had them at the same time.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Character statements are just the opinions of the character especially when we see otherwise. I judge myself and based on facts not what some idiot named Kenobi thinks.

Try your own arguments instead of Nibedicus's.

But as I explained to him, when something's repeated over and over as factual, and no ones's arguing the point, then that's an In-Universe fact being established.

Otherwise you might as well ignore everything we're told in the film. And that's especially more important when not including Out Of UNiverse quotes(which also confirm the same thing) due to the rules on this board.

Originally posted by quanchi112
At no point was it mentioned Opress severely tired him out.

It's called common sense dummy. Fighting off 2 opponents is more tiring than fighting off 1. Anyone who argues that is completely idiotic. Oh wait... Look who I'm talking to..

In any case the Episode Nugget confirms Kenobi beat them both:

"Strength in Character Defeats Strength in Numbers" 😂 Episode's already confirmed Maul lost 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Maul took on Qui and you make no mention of Maul fatiguing so you're a double standard using troll.

Actually I do when discussing TPM Kenobi vs TPM Maul. But that fight is not relevant here. But nice Troll Attempt at trying to throw out Random double standards at me.