Blue Marvel vs Superman · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

DarkSaint85 Bonified abstract

Pre DCnU Superman can also create anti matter, anyway.

Oh Robin, don't pretend like you know what Bats is talking about:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123129/3437533-1354743023-26441.jpg

Mindship Snap out of it.

Originally posted by riv6672
^^^Didn't catch this.
I'd agree but, this is DCnu Superman.

My bad. Not that familiar with the DCnu version. However, he did do that 5-days-straight-with-no-rest/sun-earthweight-equivalent benchpressing feat, which (imho) at the very least rivals Boring Swan Superman's multi-planet towing feats. Does Blue Marvel have comparable accomplishments? (I don't know; genuinely asking.) As such, I still think Supes wins.

Oh wait --

When I wrote the "original Flying Brick+," did you think I meant just precrisis Superman? I meant "original" as in the first of his kind, not a particular version.

In any event, I will say this: prior to DC (at long friggin last) removing Supes' red underoos, BM definitely had the better suit. Even now, I'd say it's at least as good.

riv6672 Senior Member

Originally posted by Mindship
My bad. Not that familiar with the DCnu version. However, he did do that 5-days-straight-with-no-rest/sun-earthweight-equivalent benchpressing feat, which (imho) at the very least rivals Boring Swan Superman's multi-planet towing feats. Does Blue Marvel have comparable accomplishments? (I don't know; genuinely asking.) As such, I still think Supes wins.

I dont pretend to be an expert on BM (threads like this help me learn), but i've already mentioned Supes has a feats edge due to several solo series/prominent member of DCs flagship team, etc. add to that posters discounting the feats BM does have...😛
Anyhow, i was impressed with the whole "could have split the moon in two" with one blow scene between him and the Watcher.
The moon's a quarter the size of earth so BM could conceivably take something Supes can bench for five days and break it in 4 blows.

Mindship Snap out of it.

Originally posted by riv6672
The moon's a quarter the size of earth so BM could conceivably take something Supes can bench for five days and break it in 4 blows.

😄 That's certainly one way to look at it.

-K-M- ...........

Uhhhhh what? No, that's not how it would work

Stoic Avenger

Originally posted by -K-M-
Uhhhhh what? No, that's not how it would work

How would it work IYO?

AsbestosFlaygon The Original One

Punching strength /= Pulling/pushing strength

The only advantage Superman has, imo, is he has more feats due to years of publication and being the face of DC. He's been established as DC's main character, something Marvel never had. Even after years of publication, they couldn't decide who the main character would be between Thor, Silver Surfer, Hulk, or Sentry. And now they even added Blue Marvel into the mess.

Anyway, we're supposed to be comparing feats in this board.
Due to the lack of feats for BM, I'm giving Supes at least a 6/10. There's no way we can gauge how strong those antimatter blasts are. If Thor or SS can tank those blasts (I dunno if they can; haven't read Marvel comics in years), then Supes sure as hell can.

riv6672 Senior Member

Originally posted by Mindship
😄 That's certainly one way to look at it.

Yes, it is.
Mind you (no pun intended), there are posters on this board/in this thread who wont even acknowledge the feats BM does have, just arbitrarily saying

Superman wins.

So, i dont feel bad for my extrapolation(s).

The below pretty much sums it up for me.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Punching strength /= Pulling/pushing strength
The only advantage Superman has, imo, is he has more feats due to years of publication and being the face of DC. He's been established as DC's main character, something Marvel never had.

Mind you, its still a fun discussion after 4 pages.

h1a8 Senior Member

Let's assume they are equals in strength.
Superman is vastly faster with far greater reflexes.
His hv is more potent, accurate, and quicker coming out.
Supermans freeze breath can give him further advantage by slowing BM down more.

Speed alone gives Superman the win every single time.

-K-M- ...........

Originally posted by Stoic
How would it work IYO?

Because watcher says he could have crack the moon doesn't mean he could destroy the planet in 4 punches 😬 is that really being debated?

Zack M Senior Member

Superman.

Stoic Avenger

Originally posted by -K-M-
Because watcher says he could have crack the moon doesn't mean he could destroy the planet in 4 punches 😬 is that really being debated?

It wasn't my statement, not sure? It does seem pretty likely though that he could destroy a planet if he nearly split the moon. I just needed clarification on your statement. Either way I think Superman wins, but it's not going to necessarily be because Superman is vastly faster, or that his HV is going to overpower BM's AM powers. And it certainly hasn't been proven that SM's FB would have the overpowering effect that some believe. Superman would get major lumps here, even if he wins, both will know that they were in a rough fight. Anything other than that is wild speculation.

I also asked a question before. Maybe you can answer it? Was it ever confirmed or denied that BM was as powerful as Anti-Man?

-K-M- ...........

No it does not. The earth has more volume (volume of the moon is 2% compared to the volume of the Earth), surface area (area of the Moon compared to Earth is only 7.4%) and mass. The mass of the Moon is only 1.2% of the mass of the Earth. So the density of the earth is also far more then the moon.

He was as powerful as classic anti-man. Upgraded beat him pretty easily and then in the rematch with the avengers bm "synch" with his powers which could have merged their power levels so it becomes murky as could have been attributed to bloodlust mode too

riv6672 Senior Member

Originally posted by -K-M-
Because watcher says he could have crack the moon doesn't mean he could destroy the planet in 4 punches 😬 is that really being debated?

It was MY statement, conjecture really, and i'm not asking you to debate it.
Feel free to give it as much credence as i give

Originally posted by h1a8
...Superman is vastly faster with far greater reflexes.
His hv is more potent, accurate, and quicker coming out.
Supermans freeze breath can give him further advantage by slowing BM down more...Speed alone gives Superman the win every single time.

Which is less than middling.