Originally posted by NewGuy01
[PR] Kreia taunts each master - During the Masters infamous speech about how they must cut the Exile off from the force, Kreia comes in as usual and throws them back. However, after she drains them, it's not over. Kreia was to ask each master how they could not have felt the echo and how close they were to giving up the Force but they failed. Kreia puts each of them in a crush, thus killing them. - Restored; Taunting. Killing would be compeletely against everything Kreia stood for. So... no killing!!!So apparently the drain doesn't kill in this version, and she either kills them with TK or not at all. (I can't tell, really, it's sorta contradictory.)
She was actually meant to leave them alive, according to the Prima guide. They allowed Surik to live because they needed her to end the threat for them since she was immune to drain.
Re: Official KOTOR II Update
Originally posted by AncientPower
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords has just had it's first update in ten years, including native widescreen, 4k and 5k resolutions and more.For us however the most important thing is that the restored content is part of the update, making it all official Legends content.
The update was made by Aspyr Media, the same company responsible for KOTOR on Google Play Store.
Originally posted by Selenial
She was actually meant to leave them alive, according to the Prima guide. They allowed Surik to live because they needed her to end the threat for them since she was immune to drain.
Killing them was not her intention according to the mod that made the director cut version played by timpedia and many other KotOR fans... Her speech indicate that she want them to recover reason...
So it make sens..
She coudl easly kill them... After all she is a bioware final boss.
"I did not wish the Jedi dead. Defeated, perhaps. I merely wished them to see that they, and their teachings, were wrong. That one could not truly understand the force simply by adhering to the Jedi Code. All I have trained, have been failures to them."
Forgive me if that's slightly off, going from memory. But yeh she didn't really want to exterminate the order at all.
Originally posted by FreshestSliceYou said that he can come back from the dead no matter what happens to him i.e. he can endure any injury considering Sion never actually dies. I'm not finding a basis for that, and I'm not seeing any reason to believe decapitation or the like would not kill him.
Where did I say he could endure any injury? I said that once he dies he comes back, which is said in game. Chaos seems to be trying to find an injury that would lead to a permanent death, and short of atomizing him and scattering the ashes, we haven't actually agreed on a way to make him stay dead, hence our little discussion. He wants Nihilus to be some sort of benchmark, and I said that since it didn't even kill Kreia, I doubt that it actually is.
Originally posted by NewGuy01So they we're just napping? I can't see how the plot works if they don't die..
So apparently the drain doesn't kill in this version, and she either kills them with TK or not at all. (I can't tell, really, it's sorta contradictory.)
Originally posted by Beniboybling
You said that he can come back from the dead no matter what happens to him i.e. he can endure any injury considering Sion never actually dies.
Not really.
Source: KOTOR Campaign Guidehttp://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124590/3838058-3828086-sionimmortality.pngInevitably, probability has it's day and Sion is struck down.
Yet death does not come for Darth Sion, and each centimeter of his failing body comes alive with anguish, multiplying that infinitely distant point of pain one thousandfold until his brain threatens to collapse.
Sion doesn't die, he's struck down and his rage keeps him alive. This is exactly how its potrayed in KOTOR II, he doesn't even go down, his health merely regenerates.
But again this is besides the point, what actual evidence do you have to suggest that decapitation would not cause Sion perma-death?
Yeah, I have it already, thanks. Living things don't decompose, homeslice. It also says he came back from the anger of being killed. So, yeah...
And no. The burden of proof lies on the one who made the claim. It's all well and good if you think decapitation will kill him. Show proof, like I asked earlier. He himself has already said his body is in "cracks," I doubt it. Either way, this is kind of irrelevant, as I've seen very few people be decapitated with the Force, which was the focus of our discussion.
Eh I'd say that's open to interpretation. I supposed it could be intepreted that Sion's body died initially but his consciousness survived, meaning Sion's body is already dead, and stayed dead, as opposed to flip flopping between the two.
As for proof I think that's implied. Decapitation tends to kill people because it cuts off blood from the brain and induces brain death. Assuming Sion's brain is still functioning (and he is dependent on it's function), which it appears to be, and is dependent on some semblance a circulatory system, it should kill him. And brain death would cause his consciousness to die too, so he won't be coming back.
Any serious damage to brain really, should kill him. If we are to assume his strength of will/consciousness is what is keeping him alive.
Not sure how this is irrelevant however, considering it began with you initially claiming "there is no way to permanently kill Sion."
Originally posted by appletonia
Is any of the restored content referenced in/contradicted by the original game or other canon sources?
Yes actually, they changed the way Traya dealt with the council to choking them all at the same time, which apparently was not in the dialogue files, thus it was their attempt to make the scene cooler. No base in canon at all.
