Cecil the Lion

The same area where Cecil is from? Yeah, lions and elephants killing locals is not a thing that is rare. I don't mean every week, but it's not once in a blue moon either, and we are not talking about "dude got eaten while trying to hunt" stuff either.

Will people react this way the next time that happens?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
A $100 grand car parked in the garage isn't quite the same thing as shooting a famous lion. For one thing a useless but expensive car can actually be an investment.

I see, so if someone can make a profit off their pointless purchase it is not as bad. So, how do you feel about poaching?

Though for me I'd just hold the guides responsible. Who is going to know the area and the boundaries and all that shit better then the guides from that area? As opposed to some dentist from Wisconsin or Minnesota or wherever the hell he is from.

Did he try to specifically lure the lion onto a territory where it was legal to kill it? It's hard to say unless we have video evidence if he purposely did this or if he just had shitty guides or guides who just didn't care.

The guy had some trouble with hunting a bear in the US, so maybe that is being used by people to assume he without a doubt did this on purpose. I don't know, I don't know much about hunting or Africa. What I do know is even though Africa is asking he be sent back to stand trial..THEY are not freaking out half as much as we are in this country. Which is..odd.

But is this a big deal because the lion had a name? Or because it suffered a lot? Since..why is this sad and if he had shot a non-famous lion in a legal area and killed it..nobody would care because f*ck that nameless lion.

So is it just a problem with hunting in general if you do it for reasons other then food..? So what if you do it for food you don't need? If you go deer hunting, don't tell me you couldn't of bought some venison at the store or some other meat, you wouldn't of starved without that deer.

Why aren't people this pissed off over whaling or killing elephants for ivory. Is it because these animals lack names? Or is it specifically people sounding names. So if the lion was named "licorice" or "candycane" would people care? Or is it because we do not have a specific person to lynch up for whaling or poaching?

Its just the Left Wing Media blowing up a trivial issue to distract the masses form the more IMPORTANT issues.

But seriously I agree with Surtur's first couple of points. People act like this guy was a Master Criminal Hunter or something.

I actually feel sorry for his wife and kids(if he has a wife and kids). There is no way that family will not have to relocate somewhere else now. That is why I'd say don't extradite him since it is quite false to say he has not been "punished".

So a lion from the same place as Cecil has killed a tour guide:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/cecil-lions-home-tourist-guide-killed-hwange-national-park-n415441

I expect tears from Jimmy Kimmel tonight.

Probably not, since it's a completely different thing.

I know, an actual human being was killed.

Originally posted by Surtur
I know, an actual human being was killed.

And that's very sad, but it was killed by an animal that goes by instincts, that can't be held responsible for planning and executing this, very unlike what the people who lured and killed the lion did. That's why they are very different situations.

That is a fair point.

Originally posted by Bardock42
And that's very sad, but it was killed by an animal that goes by instincts, that can't be held responsible for planning and executing this, very unlike what the people who lured and killed the lion did. That's why they are very different situations.

That seems very hypocritical.

Lions should be held to the same standards as the rest of us.

Soon we will hear Israel has lion spies as well. Lions and tigers and bears oh my.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]That seems very hypocritical.

Lions should be held to the same standards as the rest of us. [/B]

Did the lion go to a different country to superseed local rules about hunting?

Originally posted by Bentley
Did the lion go to a different country to superseed local rules about hunting?

I see, so the tragedy of Cecil wasn't that he was killed, but that they killed him in a way that was against the rules?

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]That seems very hypocritical.

Lions should be held to the same standards as the rest of us. [/B]

You are right, the lion should get a lot of angry email, that'll show it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You are right, the lion should get a lot of angry email, that'll show it.

I dunno man, how easy is it to send crossbow bolts through email? Maybe we could borrow some "killer" arrows from the dolphin, that dirty spy doesn't need them anymore.

Originally posted by Surtur
I see, so the tragedy of Cecil wasn't that he was killed, but that they killed him in a way that was against the rules?

Of course, do you think the western society has animal life in any kind of esteem? This is about losing tourism money because a famous lion is now dead.

In the other hand, nothing forbids you from being outraged both by the death inflicted to Cecil and the unlawfulness of his passing. Imagine if you did a similar comment on a different thread:

Originally posted by Surtur
I see, so the tragedy wasn't that a black kid was killed, but that they killed him in a way that was against the rules?

So Jimmy Kimmel was crying over the loss of tourism money? This country as a whole was upset over the tourism money?

Originally posted by Surtur
So Jimmy Kimmel was crying over the loss of tourism money? This country as a whole was upset over the tourism money?

Lions get killed by poachers all the time, people know this and they don't get riled up much. They are sensible to the narration that was brought by the media, which only happened because of all the reasons I cited above.

So yes, crying happened because of tourism money, in a fashion.

Originally posted by Bentley
Did the lion go to a different country to superseed local rules about hunting?

Lions are Knig of all that they survey so it doesn't matter where Cecil went. He was the King of it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You are right, the lion should get a lot of angry email, that'll show it.

Yeah. That will show em!

Originally posted by Bentley
Lions get killed by poachers all the time, people know this and they don't get riled up much. They are sensible to the narration that was brought by the media, which only happened because of all the reasons I cited above.

So yes, crying happened because of tourism money, in a fashion.

Think it happened because that lion was famous AND protected by law. The coward paid some people to lure him off protected land and then shot him. I would've been upset even if the lion wasn't famous or protected and yes, I realize that they're killed on a constant basis and it doesn't make me any less upset. The only difference is, this time we know who was responsible and he is paying for it (he had to go into hiding).