Originally posted by carver9
Skrullbolt blew a chunk out of the moon the size of a state and ripped through space/time with his voice. He then took on the entirety of the Avengers and was winning. Yes, I will use him.
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As for these various fights involving BP, again, you don't have to be herald level to beat the FF in single combat.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
But no one has applied a rating to Black Panther nor is that what the thread is about, so what's the real reason? And how do you discern the FACT that he defeated them in his first appearance in 1966?
He defeated them in the classic days when Sue (along with her teammates) wasn't close to where they are now. Back then Sue use to pass out when people like Gladiator or Hulk punched her shield with high force. Now her force field can withstand hit from World War Hulk, Celestials, and Galactus himself. Do you not see the power difference here? An argument can be made for beating Ben (even though I disagree with this as well) but the others? No!!!!
Originally posted by carver9
He defeated them in the classic days when Sue (along with her teammates) wasn't close to where they are now. Back then Sue use to pass out when people like Gladiator or Hulk punched her shield with high force. Now her force field can withstand hit from World War Hulk, Celestials, and Galactus himself. Do you not see the power difference here? An argument can be made for beating Ben (even though I disagree with this as well) but the other? No!!!!
What the **** does that have to with anything? Was someone questioning the strength of the shields?
Originally posted by carver9
I'm explaining to you that they have grown in power. Not just the shields either. Let's throw versatility in there as well.
Panther has grown as well, he didn't have half the tech mentioned earlier when he beat them and that's cannon. Has Sue gotten faster? More durable? Able to see invisibility herself? More willing to kill her friend? If the answer is no, then none of this applies. Again, like I said to another poster yesterday, you all act like someone said BP would win by ripping the shields apart. No, sir, all the other conditions apply.
I have no problem with you saying she would win, if you actually make the argument. Saying her shields are stronger than before means absolutely nothing.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
But, I thought I was a meanie?Sorry, when you put for your opinion, I have a right to put forth mine. That's sorta how the board works. Him being "familiar" with invisibility won't hep him much. It might result in him knowing he doesn't stand a chance. He's way slower, dumber and has no way whatsoever to track and invisible T'Challa. Nice try, though.