Originally posted by SamZED
Had no idea Qentin is so powerful, I'm only familiar with his abilities from that time when he failed to read Cap's mind.
Red Onslaught's telepathy was being dampened by Iron Man, Xavier was fighting him internally, and he was still broadcasting globally while fighting the Avengers/X-Men/and villains who came later. Quentin was practically about to kill over despite that help. Red Onslaught was on a whole different level than Quire.
Originally posted by Genii96
The only low feat he has is getting beat by the cuckoos honestly. The same chicks who required kick+cerebro+5 of them to stop him,then the next time he went on a rampage they hid in the closet,then suddenly they improve enough to beat him easily?
I'll respond to the rest later. In the meantime, some entertainment. Emma made Quire soil himself.
Originally posted by StyleTime
He's strong, but not all of that stuff is true. Or at least it's not the full story.Red Onslaught's telepathy was being dampened by Iron Man, Xavier was fighting him internally, and he was still broadcasting globally while fighting the Avengers/X-Men/and villains who came later. Quentin was practically about to kill over despite that help. Red Onslaught was on a whole different level than Quire.
Sophie(not all of them) used kick because Quentin was already on kick. In the rematch, Quentin was inside cerebra, while the Cuckoo's were unamped. The Cuckoos still won, pointing out that they got stronger. Seems perfectly reasonable.
I'll respond to the rest later. In the meantime, some entertainment. Emma made Quire soil himself.
First off,tony's telepathic dampners stopped working long before quentin started blocking him,his armour had run out of power,and he got KOd,waking up the next day,and still couldn't do squat until deadpool recharged him,only then did he reactivate the dampners,quire blocked onslaught throughout....red onslaught himself noted it was quire who was blocking him,
5 girls+cerebro+one kick was what brought down quire,and he wasn't even KO'd..,nex time they met,they hid in closets from him,while be beat up emma frost+cerebro and the entire school....then suddenly only 3 of them beat quire+cerebro?..PIS crap,unless ure saying the cuckoos are 10x above emma frost or something.
Emma frost did that to him with a cheapshot,he was leaving and she hit him with it,mindee oneshotted celeste and phoebe with a cheapshot,adult jean oneshotted kid jean with a cheapshot,kid jean beat adult jean in a telepathic fight prior to that.
Originally posted by Genii96
First off,tony's telepathic dampners stopped working long before quentin started blocking him,his armour had run out of power,and he got KOd,waking up the next day,and still couldn't do squat until deadpool recharged him,only then did he reactivate the dampners,quire blocked onslaught throughout....red onslaught himself noted it was quire who was blocking him,5 girls+cerebro+one kick was what brought down quire,and he wasn't even KO'd..,nex time they met,they hid in closets from him,while be beat up emma frost+cerebro and the entire school....then suddenly only 3 of them beat quire+cerebro?..PIS crap,unless ure saying the cuckoos are 10x above emma frost or something.
Emma frost did that to him with a cheapshot,he was leaving and she hit him with it,mindee oneshotted celeste and phoebe with a cheapshot,adult jean oneshotted kid jean with a cheapshot,kid jean beat adult jean in a telepathic fight prior to that.
That simply allowed them to end the fight in a one-shot, rather than a drawn out battle. The other story points out they got stronger, a perfectly reasonable explanation, and could one shot him without amping.
Endsong Quentin was an outlier, a relic from when was he was supposed to be a transcendant being. He could also exist as an immaterial specter then, fly, and use telekinesis. He's been flesh and blood ever since he rejoined the main cast, hasn't displayed telekinesis, and can't fly(even required a jetpack at school). Once he became a regular character again, he got downgraded to "brat with big potential" again. We're talking over 50 issues here. There's a pretty clear shift. We'd had to accept it with Psylocke when she mysteriously lost her tk, we must accept with Quentin.
(The Emma scan was for laughs.)
Originally posted by Genii96
She gave him a nosebleed because she assaulted him,and he didn't retaliate,of course his head is going to hurt if he got a hit from racheal. Emma was held down telepathically,she couldn't break free,even with cerebro,and it wasn't just her,the entire mutant population was held down too,she was aware,but couldn't break free,next time they met he KO'd her easily, Wolverine never fought his control,he put wolvering and hisako in a telepathic game world he created where he controlled every aspect in there,his subconscious continued while he slept and things got out of hand,after he left the school he easily messed around with wolverine's head during the hell fire club birthday,cap didn't block him,just cuz he had a giant shield in his head dosent mean quire couldn't mindrape him if he wanted,unless there was a retcon I am not aware of,quire never lost his omega level powers,and currently he blocked red onslaught for a full day despite being weakened,created a telepathic gameplay world,which continues even if he sleeps,hell he absorbed wolverine's fighting and flight skills from his mind, wolverine himself admitted that quire could've left the institute when we felt like it,despite claiming that rachael has him 'mind watched'.he also handled that brain girl easily.
Wolverine was fighting the construct, and he was literally hunting Quentin while all this went on. The construct worked yes, but Wolverine was still not under full control. He broke out of the shack here, and proceeded to show up in the school while Quentin hid in various places from him.
The Captain America and Quire thing was a really dumb story true. I always interpreted the event as Quentin realized it would be too big a task trying to get into his mind, so he backed down. Quentin was threatening to leave Cap a drooling mess right before then, and he's definitely the type to do it if he could. Maybe it was a low showing, maybe not. Quentin has been pretty neutered these days.
Should be noted that the Avengers, including Captain America, knew they needed to bring actual tp-dampeners when they encountered Rachel in AvX 131