Republican Primary Debates

Started by Shakyamunison18 pages
Originally posted by Bardock42
Of course Democrats are more willing to tax in some circumstances in order to provide services. In my view a lot of these services improve the life of people considerably, and cutting them while lowering taxes, while seemingly good short term, has negative consequences that ultimately lead to wore quality of life for people.

Bullsh*t!

They tax to make themselves and the rich, richer. I see it all the time.

Remember I used to be a Demarcate, and then I woke up to what is really going on.

Sorry to wake you, just go back to sleep.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Bullsh*t!

They tax to make themselves and the rich, richer. I see it all the time.

Remember I used to be a Demarcate, and then I woke up to what is really going on.

Sorry to wake you, just go back to sleep.

I guess we just have to disagree for now. Maybe one of us will change his mind in the future...

Trump did not entertain me as much as I'd hoped.

The naivete is amusing.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That is because you have swallowed the Democratic bait, hook line and sinker.

Also I don't care what psmith81992 said.


I don't imagine he's exposed to much Democrat propaganda in Germany.

Originally posted by psmith81992
The naivete is amusing.

Please vary up your word choice a little. "Naivete" and "naive" are getting stale.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't imagine he's exposed to much Democrat propaganda in Germany.

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And I am open to the idea that what I see is because Oregon is just really screwed up.

Please vary up your word choice a little. "Naivete" and "naive" are getting stale.

Because I keep using it in the exact same context every time..

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
And I am open to the idea that what I see is because Oregon is just really screwed up.

Well yeah, remember Oregon is the place that wants to pay for teen sex changes and let teens get sex changes without parental consent even at the age of 15.

I always say people who equate any kind of change to progress are silly.

Of course it's silly to equate change with progress. As silly as assuming that because something's traditional it must be correct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyH8P3SZk1I

This is so ****ing funny, NGL.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Of course it's silly to equate change with progress. As silly as assuming that because something's traditional it must be correct.

👆

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyH8P3SZk1I

This is so ****ing funny, NGL.

First time I've heard there is a "war on women".

Also you know what I can't speak on what he said about others, but I have no problem with what he said about Rosie O'Donnell. He insulted her appearance by calling her fat, but she had previously insulted his appearance as well(comments about his hair). So, I think if she is going to go after him for his appearance..he can go after her for her own.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Of course Democrats are more willing to tax in some circumstances in order to provide services. In my view a lot of these services improve the life of people considerably, and cutting them while lowering taxes, while seemingly good short term, has negative consequences that ultimately lead to wore quality of life for people.

So let's remove tax and assume we have the money in front of us what services are going to improve the quality of life considerably at least in the usa?

Originally posted by snowdragon
So let's remove tax and assume we have the money in front of us what services are going to improve the quality of life considerably at least in the usa?

Infrastructure, schooling, health care, police and fire departments, social welfare, prison system, military, post office, medical research, etc.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I guess we just have to disagree for now. Maybe one of us will change his mind in the future...

So you disagree that Hill has not gotten richer off her lies and scandals?

No she has, look at her wealth. She was dead broke before entering the whitehouse. I would trust s pre millionaire or billionaire who made their money off the free market then a backwater socialist who says they are public servants while increasing their wealth off their dirty politics.

If you deny this you deny reality and the history of the Clintons.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So you disagree that Hill has not gotten richer off her lies and scandals?

No she has, look at her wealth. She was dead broke before entering the whitehouse. I would trust s pre millionaire or billionaire who made their money off the free market then a backwater socialist who says they are public servants while increasing their wealth off their dirty politics.

If you deny this you deny reality and the history of the Clintons.

That has not been what Shakya and I have been discussing.

However I don't think there's evidence that she has gotten rich off illicit means. Her and Bill have definitely leveraged their position to make money, however a lot of politicians make money off of giving speeches (just remember the Newt Gingrich controversy a couple years ago) or writing books when they are out of office, and a former president can bring in very high fees, so it is not that hard to get rich once you were president.

Generally campaign finance needs to be reformed regardless, and it gives undue access to politicians, and I find it distasteful, and really I view it as legalized corruption. Hillary Clinton is not the odd one out with that, all politicians, whether they are Democrats or Republicans take money for their campaigns and it gives access to the larger donors.

Remember when I said Trump's main goal was to not screw up?
http://news.yahoo.com/trump-dumped-from-conservative-gathering-over-remarks-about-megyn-kelly-124628606.html#

...it's starting. For clarity, I don't think this torpedoes his chances, and I do think we're too politically correct at times. But he's only going to be able to burn so many bridges before the GOP turns against him entirely, and/or he loses too many groups of people (Latinos, women, etc.) that he has no chance in the general election.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That has not been what Shakya and I have been discussing.

However I don't think there's evidence that she has gotten rich off illicit means. Her and Bill have definitely leveraged their position to make money, however a lot of politicians make money off of giving speeches (just remember the Newt Gingrich controversy a couple years ago) or writing books when they are out of office, and a former president can bring in very high fees, so it is not that hard to get rich once you were president.

Generally campaign finance needs to be reformed regardless, and it gives undue access to politicians, and I find it distasteful, and really I view it as legalized corruption. Hillary Clinton is not the odd one out with that, all politicians, whether they are Democrats or Republicans take money for their campaigns and it gives access to the larger donors.

No she's not the odd one out, she's just the one who thinks she can get away with out without really covering her tracks because she knows everyone, like you will just use the excuse you just made for her. "oh everyone does it."

I'm sorry, two wrongs don't make a right. Enlighten me which person in politics has had as much public shaming besides her Husband who happened to get impeached, another thing that gets swept under the rug.

Originally posted by Digi
Remember when I said Trump's main goal was to not screw up?
http://news.yahoo.com/trump-dumped-from-conservative-gathering-over-remarks-about-megyn-kelly-124628606.html#

...it's starting. For clarity, I don't think this torpedoes his chances, and I do think we're too politically correct at times. But he's only going to be able to burn so many bridges before the GOP turns against him entirely, and/or he loses too many groups of people (Latinos, women, etc.) that he has no chance in the general election.

The problem is shit like this is going to just cause Trump to run as an independent. Which you would think is the last thing Republicans want.