Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Good arguments honestly. Ton of BP love on this site. Standing by my original though, dont think its gonna just go down that easy for him but I firmly believe T'challa can take some wins. Sues powers are hard to beat though.
Absolutely not an easy fight either way. I can appreciate the fact that you continued to listen to arguments after coming to an early conclusion.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Yeah, it does matter and it's the same continuity. He's just even more teched up now. Nice try.Dude, a person who doesn't want to get in a flame war doesn't refer to a grown man as kid. It's obvious you do that to comfort yourself whenever you have no sound rebuttal.
It's funny, you are so misinformed about BP you actually had to admit you are no BP expert. Then you try to save face by claiming you've read most of his comics. Well I don't believe you. You've displayed nothing but ignorance of the character, none moreso than when you called him a Batman knock off. If you truly knew the character, you would know that in 1966, BP was nothing like Batman who was merely a crime fight/detective. Batman later evolved into a great strategist as well as a top tier martial artist and tech expert. BP was all of these things and more FROM THE BEGINNING and thus your misinformed,wreckless insult rings hollow.
Rest of your rant is worthless. When you have an actual argument, call me.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Absolutely not an easy fight either way. I can appreciate the fact that you continued to listen to arguments after coming to an early conclusion.
I try to look at things from both sides. Nothings ever a given in life and definitely not in comics. My thing and one reason I feel like people can at all screw with Sue and Johny Storm is the fact tuat once you get past their amazing and versatile powerset, they arent much more than regular people.
The thing with "street level" characters is its hard to rack up low showings when your constantly running around with other characters that can bust planets etc.just staying alive watching hulk and thor wrestle would be a freaking durability feat. BP has a shitton of good feats, even if some are off panel. Same with cap etc. Sue does constantly job her powers out.
If this was bloodlusted, no cis,pis Sue would be damn near untouchable by anyone other than mid-high heralds imo.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Sue does constantly job her powers out.
What? Sue has been a consistent powerhouse for years. Even decades ago she was rocking Hulk through walls on a whim and stopping nuclear explosions with little strain.
While she's not an expert h2h combatant, she's gone rounds with Iron Fist and didn't get flatlined so I can hardly see BP bum-rushing her down before she can slam him with a force field battering ram that he can't even see coming. Sue wins 10/10, and I don't support the reasoning that she needs to be all Malice or bloodlusted to incapacitate him. She's not dumb, she knows who he is, and she's grown VERY creative and reactive with her powers over the course of Fantastic Four history so I'm just not seeing T'challa walking away a winner.
Originally posted by Konton
What? Sue has been a consistent powerhouse for years. Even decades ago she was rocking Hulk through walls on a whim and stopping nuclear explosions with little strain.While she's not an expert h2h combatant, she's gone rounds with Iron Fist and didn't get flatlined so I can hardly see BP bum-rushing her down before she can slam him with a force field battering ram that he can't even see coming. Sue wins 10/10, and I don't support the reasoning that she needs to be all Malice or bloodlusted to incapacitate him. She's not dumb, she knows who he is, and she's grown VERY creative and reactive with her powers over the course of Fantastic Four history so I'm just not seeing T'challa walking away a winner.
Originally posted by Vanguard
You can thumbs up all you want. The fact is this is not your everyday Panther. He's become more powerful and resourceful than before.
Just recently her shields stood up to a prolonged attack by three Rogue CELESTIALS. She shut down an entire group of heroes that included Hulk.
Her shields withstood a prolonged attack by Doom with the powers of Aaron the Rogue Watcher (her shield shattered but Doom was wrecked too and had to retreat to repair his Watcher Armor).
Originally posted by Vanguard
You can thumbs up all you want. The fact is this is not your everyday Panther. He's become more powerful and resourceful than before.
That's true, and with prep he can definitely do something.
In a random encounter, Sue should be defeating Hulk and Thor. She's THAT powerful, thanks to the stupidly exotic nature of her shields. (Girl pierced through Galactus and Celestial armor, after all..)