Jedi Council vs Sith

Started by Selenial2 pages

Originally posted by Q99
I agree with those.

On the flip side, he may be more well-rounded in saber skill but possibly less physically capable. Vindican could still have the edge.

Perhaps, though Piell served on royal honour guards and other security forces so I doubt he's physically inept.

I just think Vindican's horrendous at adapting, he died because he forgot rule one of fighting a double bladed lightsaber... Even though he has one himself.

Piell randomly switching forms would probably throw him off and secure a victory.

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Originally posted by Emperordmb
I'm not entirely sure about this one.

Even if Gallia was the better duelist, Talon's force advantage is pretty overwhelming tbh.

Malgus should win on account of his noticeably greater force abilities.

Probably.

It's always been my opinion that Vader is superior on account of greater force mastery, skill, greater natural physical strength, and armoring.

This could lead him to victory. Or he could get battered like he did in RotJ.

Kopecz stomps this in just about every area.

Lolwut.

I'd kinda like your thoughts on this one Xtasy.

After some consideration, I'd side Lumiya tbh. Her performance against Tresina Lobi wasn't fantastic, but she's generally operating on a higher level than Depa.

I'll take Koth. His fight with Grievous impresses me more than anything Sion's done as a duelist.

Sion's probably not bad; by virtue of either his skill or physicals he was able to overpower a Jedi Councillor in Lana Vash. It was on Korriban, but even then he still has his immortality to work with, which means he can outlast most opponents.

That being said, I'm not sure if he can take Koth on neutral ground either; maybe?

I'm leaning Piell, but not entirely sure.

Lord Vindican isn't bad, but I wouldn't pit him against a seasoned Councillor tbh.

Wyyrlok's sorcery should earn him a solid victory.

Honestly he could easily do without; he could kill Mundi with a blade, thrash him with telekinesis, or fry him with FL. This is probably the most spite-y of all the matches tbh.

Droma's force powers and duel with Kun impress me more.

Pretty much.

I have both of these characters in an area of ranking I like to call the blob, and I'm not sure where Windu fits in the blob, so I'm not entirely sure.

Honestly, Kun probably wins more often than not; dat sorcery.

Githany I suppose.

...Probably not. Githany's another one I wouldn't pit against a seasoned Jedi Council member. 😆

Kenobi is too solidly the greater duelist IMO

Pretty much this; not sure what argument could be made for Nihl tbh.

Is this a battle meditation fight or a fight fight with battle meditation involved?

This, tbh. Good fights either way though.

Regardless of whether this is DOE Cognus or Sith Master Cognus, Stass hasn't shown enough combatively to earn a victory imo.

Lol, she could probably take Bounty Hunter Cognus in a one on one.

Kas'im. I've made my position on this one abundantly clear.

Nah, Shaak edges it. :>

Sirak is unquestionably Poof's superior in a duel,

I question. :>

but Poof's Force abilities may prove too much for him.

Yeahp.

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Originally posted by NewGuy01
Lolwut.

I'm not really sure what the confusion here is. His lightsaber skills impress me more, as do his force abilities, and his durability is pretty insane as well.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
After some consideration, I'd side Lumiya tbh. Her performance against Tresina Lobi wasn't fantastic, but she's generally operating on a higher level than Depa.

Entirely possible. I'd probably lean her way at this point.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Sion's probably not bad; by virtue of either his skill or physicals he was able to overpower a Jedi Councillor in Lana Vash. It was on Korriban, but even then he still has his immortality to work with, which means he can outlast most opponents.

That being said, I'm not sure if he can take Koth on neutral ground either; maybe?


Sion's sketchy. He's a threat, but he's been struck down often in combat, but he's immortal. Kinda makes debates with him weird.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Honestly he could easily do without; he could kill Mundi with a blade, thrash him with telekinesis, or fry him with FL. This is probably the most spite-y of all the matches tbh.

He could, the power of his specialization is just what I as being his most potent edge, even if his other edges could make short work of him.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
...Probably not. Githany's another one I wouldn't pit against a seasoned Jedi Council member. 😆

She was on the Sith Council and beat a Jedi General who was "in many ways a true warrior who epitomized the Jedi ideal" or something along those lines. That being said, I'm open to changing my mind on this one if I see feats/accolades for Micah.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Lol, she could probably take Bounty Hunter Cognus in a one on one.

Stass along with Trebor have always struck me as the least impressive PT council members. Does she have any noteworthy combat feats or accolades I should be aware of?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Nah, Shaak edges it. :>

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I question. :>

His RT has nothing on his dueling abilities and none come to mind when I think of him. Though given the face I imagine this one was a joke.

Originally posted by Selenial
Perhaps, though Piell served on royal honour guards and other security forces so I doubt he's physically inept.

I just think Vindican's horrendous at adapting, he died because he forgot rule one of fighting a double bladed lightsaber... Even though he has one himself.

Piell randomly switching forms would probably throw him off and secure a victory.

That's a fair point.

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Originally posted by Emperordmb
I'm not really sure what the confusion here is. His lightsaber skills impress me more, as do his force abilities, and his durability is pretty insane as well.

I don't recall him having any significant feats, really. He was the primary rival of Quordis, he found Bane, he was somewhat resistant to Kaan's TP, he was pretty fat, and he was injured in battle then finished off by Farfalla. Are there details I'm missing? Haven't read PoD in a long time, tbh, but that's all I can really remember about him.

Entirely possible. I'd probably lean her way at this point.

Mhm.

Sion's sketchy. He's a threat, but he's been struck down often in combat, but he's immortal. Kinda makes debates with him weird.

Really to beat Sion, the key factors are being significantly more skilled (to be capable of beating him repeatedly without losing) and having the necessary force reserves to last it out. One could beat him that way, though putting him down permanently is a bit of a different story; the easiest way besides Dun Moch would be to cut him off from the Force tbh.

He could, the power of his specialization is just what I as being his most potent edge, even if his other edges could make short work of him.

Mhm.

Stass along with Trebor have always struck me as the least impressive PT council members. Does she have any noteworthy combat feats or accolades I should be aware of?

Besides Grievous considering her a master duelist, and better than Pablo/Foul/Roron? Not that I can recall.

Still, unlike her fight with Bane, she wouldn't have the element of surprise, nor backup, nor prep. And Stass is a Jedi healer, for what it's worth; might help with the toxins, might not.

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Originally posted by NewGuy01
I don't recall him having any significant feats, really. He was the primary rival of Quordis, he found Bane, he was somewhat resistant to Kaan's TP, he was pretty fat, and he was injured in battle then finished off by Farfalla. Are there details I'm missing? Haven't read PoD in a long time, tbh, but that's all I can really remember about him.

He pretty easily slaughtered an entire elite unit of the best soldiers the republic had to offer with his lightsaber, with only one of them having a chance to fire twice. He also killed a couple of Padawans with TK and could use Force storm in combat. And when he fought Farfalla he had a ****ton of arrows sticking out of his back and the back of his neck, as well as two spears skewered through his abdomen. It's honestly pretty impressive that he was even able to stand at that point.

Not the most impressive guy, but definitely enough to beat Trebor.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Really to beat Sion, the key factors are being significantly more skilled (to be capable of beating him repeatedly without losing) and having the necessary force reserves to last it out. One could beat him that way, though putting him down permanently is a bit of a different story; the easiest way besides Dun Moch would be to cut him off from the Force tbh.

Makes sense.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Besides Grievous considering her a master duelist, and better than Pablo/Foul/Roron? Not that I can recall.

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Originally posted by NewGuy01
Still, unlike her fight with Bane, she wouldn't have the element of surprise, nor backup, nor prep. And Stass is a Jedi healer, for what it's worth; might help with the toxins, might not.

I think she could win between her precog, speed, arsenal, and, quite notably, her force suppression.