Anakin Skywalker and Obi wan kenobi vs Plo Koon and Shaak Ti

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Originally posted by carthage
Anakin stomps Ti, and Kenobi beats Plo

Originally posted by carthage
Shaak Ti is out of her depth

Originally posted by carthage
Shaak Ti costs team 2 the victory

I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say here. Maybe if you repeat yourself a fourth time, it'll all become clear for everyone. Because the first few times evidently weren't enough.

DMB please stop harassing me.

Nah typical Carthage trolling, nothing to see here DMB.

People still read Carthage's posts?

Only If they're drunk or missing a loved one

Originally posted by Selenial
So you think Obi-Wan > Galen Marek in the force.

That's a really justified argument, totally conceded 👆 I really can't see why no one takes you seriously as a debater! 🙄

A still in his training Galen >Kenobi? Also That Galen was stronger than Ti in the Force, that's how he killed her. So for your logic to be true and Ti can throw Kenobi around with the Force then she would need to be at the very least on Mauls level and apprentice Galen is stronger than Maul in the Force, and lets note that Galen hasn't become as strong as he will become.

So Galen Prime>apprentice Galen> Ti =Maul > Kenobi.

Do I have that about right?

Bantha was right that Kenobi isn't necessarily weak to Force-fugging, and that Maul and Dooku are just exceptionally powerful. Having said that I think it's fair to say Ti is in Maul's range of power, given the telepathic influence she held over much of Felucia and her taking Galen to town. Is she quite on Maul's level in terms of raw power? Maybe, maybe not, but she's in that general ballpark, for sure.

Felicia is a nexus, and she did not take Marek "to town" with the Force. She was way outclassed.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Felicia is a nexus, and she did not take Marek "to town" with the Force. She was way outclassed.

In one source:

She force pushed him
Kinetited him to the point where he could barely stand
Penetrated him with Sarlacc Tentacles.

In another:

She had better force augmented speed
She had better force augmented strength
She deflected all of his Lightning and Telekinesis while dominating a Sarlacc.
He was "lucky to have survived"

In the third, the only way he could kill her was by abusing the Sarlacc....

Please tell me where she was "way outclassed".

PS: It's spelled Felucia. Not to mention the fact it's a nexus is actually another pro for Shaak. As the more powerful Force User, Felucia would have been a bigger boon to him than her.

Ah yes back on the topic of teamwork:
"Initially, it had cheered him to observe that Skywalker and Kenobi had finally learned to fight together; to see how powerful they had become in partnership. Complementing each other's strengths, compensating for each other's weaknesses. Kenobi making full use of his inherent discretion to balance young Skywalker's inattentive rowdiness. He could have watched them until the light faded on fair Tythe. And he wished that General Grievous could have been there to witness the display for himself."-Labyrinth of Evil

This did take place after Oba Diah, so yeah. Supports the notion that their teamwork was amazing as of the outer rim sieges, but kinda shit beforehand.

Originally posted by Selenial
In one source:

She force pushed him
Kinetited him to the point where he could barely stand
Penetrated him with Sarlacc Tentacles.

In another:

She had better force augmented speed
She had better force augmented strength
She deflected all of his Lightning and Telekinesis while dominating a Sarlacc.
He was "lucky to have survived"

In the third, the only way he could kill her was by abusing the Sarlacc....

Please tell me where she was "way outclassed".


The part where he defeated her with it. I don't know what definition of outclass you use, but Marek was clearly the superior in that regard and a loss is a loss.

PS: It's spelled Felucia. Not to mention the fact it's a nexus is actually another pro for Shaak. As the more powerful Force User, Felucia would have been a bigger boon to him than her.

Thanks, Mom. I'll be sure to remind Swype how to spell the name of random planets in Star Wars. And no it's not. It's a nexus she personalized herself for the opposite alignment. How is that boon for Marek, an apprentice before his prime? Marek who's weaker than either RotS Kenobi or Anakin, I might add.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
The part where he defeated her with it. I don't know what definition of outclass you use, but Marek was clearly the superior in that regard and a loss is a loss.

Thanks, Mom. I'll be sure to remind Swype how to spell the name of random planets in Star Wars. And no it's not. It's a nexus she personalized herself for the opposite alignment. How is that boon for Marek, an apprentice before his prime? Marek who's weaker than either RotS Kenobi or Anakin, I might add.

You really need to understand the difference between raw force power and skill 😬

Freshest, you have a source for that? That's a rhetoretical question which four other people have already failed against. Go and find me a source calling it a nexus, dark or regular.

People lowball Shaak Ti by trying to apply a nexus that has not once even been referenced to. She kicked Galen's ass, whether it be Force dominating him whilst lecturing him or being his physical and skillful superior by every measure.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Anakin solos.

Originally posted by Selenial
You really need to understand the difference between raw force power and skill 😬

Trust me, it's not a hard subject to grasp. And it doesn't matter when she still dies, but whatever. Anakin has more raw power and skill than Ti, and Obi-Wan is stronger than Koon.

As for you AP:

Native to the Force-rich world of Felucia, the Felucian shamans are among
the most talented natural Force-users in the galaxy. The world of Felucia is
tied intimately to the Living Force, and as such the world's flora and fauna,
including the Felucians themselves, can be influenced by the presence of
strong agents of the Force, both light and dark.

Right there in the campaign guide for the Force Unleashed. Note the phrasing "Force-Rich." It's a nexus. And Ti was tailoring it towards the Light.