Originally posted by -K-M-
You didn't know he has affected aliens (that's not all he has manipulated either)? Well confirms what I said earlier then.No we made mention of Namor's telepathic resistance multiple times now. Nice try 👆
Shut up. I read it in this thread. Now tell me two things, A has he done it more than once and B has he done it since the last time DC blew up their pitiful universe? I'll wait.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Shut up. I read it in this thread. Now tell me two things, A has he done it more than once and B has he done it since the last time DC blew up their pitiful universe? I'll wait.
and yet you tried to claim we didn't say it. Nice. Way to get defensive too 👆
Actually yes, yes he has and it was consistent too. Not simply one-offs. Are you talking about post 52? Most of his stories carried over.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
What am I reading? Prof X is talking about World War Hulk.
Originally posted by -K-M-
and yet you tried to claim we didn't say it. Nice. Way to get defensive too 👆Actually yes, yes he has and it was consistent too. Not simply one-offs. Are you talking about post 52? Most of his stories carried over.
What am I reading? Prof X is talking about World War Hulk.
Um, I made no such statement. Do you even know how stupid the premise of your claim is? If you want to have a debate, stop being an ass. I said I didn't know he controlled aliens and I was referrencing the claims made in this thread today. Don't tell me what I know.
Funny how AM says he has a "measure" of control over Marine life and how it was difficult for him to shut their minds down. Not exactly Professor X stuff. Namor would kick him the **** out of his mind like he does everyone else.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Um, I made no such statement. Do you even know how stupid the premise of your claim is? If you want to have a debate, stop being an ass. I said I didn't know he controlled aliens and I was referrence the claims made in this thread today.Funny how AM says he has a "measure" of control over Marine life and how it was difficult for him to shut their minds down. Not exactly Professor X stuff. Namor would kick him the **** out of his mind like he does everyone else.
mmmmhm...and this wasn't a claim?
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
What's really hilarious is how all of you are ignoring Namors incredible TP resistance. The serpent crow >>> AM. Dr. strange >>> AM.
How stupid my premise is? Haha ok, these are facts stated in actual comics. Sounds like just because you don't like it, you wish to ignore it. He also has as I said earlier controlled humans, mutants, demons, gods, millennium giants, aliens, non-aquatic animals, etc. He hasn't just controlled marine life since the early 90s
Yeah a measure of control and you know why he says that? most marine life don't possess enough intelligence to carry a meaningful telepathic communication. Aquaman simply adds compulsions and needs in the mindset of aquatic life, compelling them to do his bidding by a subtle altering of their cerebellum as indicated in Aquaman #1 (that's a direct statement, not theory but fact again). Other sentient beings he can control, but marine life they don't have much thought. Keep clinging to that one showing though 👆
The premise that I knew he controlled aliens but asked the question anyway as you said is just stupid,
Yeah genius, so it was HARDER for him to control the more complex minds of the atlanteans and he even said it wasn't like controlling Halibut. His tp was weak in that story arc
Are you too scared to answer my two questions? If so, just say so. I'll ask one more time only, A has he controlled aliens more than once and B has the new spiffy AM done so?
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Yeah genius, so it was HARDER for him to control the more.complex minds of the atlanteans and he even said it wasn't like controlling Halibut. His tp was weak in that story arcAre you too scared to answer my two questions? If so, just say so.
haha what? Seriously have you seen how easily he has controlled humans, demons, mutants, aliens, etc. Honestly have you seen really any Aquaman's telepathy showings? It wasn\t weak as mentioned by MULTIPLE people in this thread he wasn't targeting everyone he was targeting a select group. Again seems you need to cling to that one showing as that's all you know.
Ummm...I did already 😬. Do you have troubles reading? Sounds like you only see what you want to see
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Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Shut up. I read it in this thread. Now tell me two things, A has he done it more than once and B has he done it since the last time DC blew up their pitiful universe? I'll wait.
Originally posted by -K-M-
Actually yes, yes he has and it was consistent too. Not simply one-offs. Are you talking about post 52? Most of his stories carried over.
Originally posted by -K-M-
How stupid my premise is? Haha ok, these are facts stated in actual comics. Sounds like just because you don't like it, you wish to ignore it. He also has as I said earlier controlled humans, mutants, demons, gods, millennium giants, aliens, non-aquatic animals, etc. He hasn't just controlled marine life since the early 90s
Well tbh,the only weapon that trident has to affect namor would be ice...lightening won't help,namor would just redirect it right back at him, as for TP,namor has one of the highest TP resistance,I mean he resisted and became immune to puppet master's control,as well as some other feats...
BTW is that crossover actually canon? I thought crossovers weren't canon?
Dosent namor have poseidon's trident too?
Originally posted by zopzop
BAV, I've argued for Namor on other threads but AM has got him beat here. Between the TP and magic trident, it's AM's fight to lose.
Um, Namor has a magic Trident as well and the TP is no match for Namor's mind and superior strength. You saw was Prof X said about his mind. AM will never knock around the Hulk like Namor's been doing his entire existence. He's not true powerhouse, Namor is.
Namor's Trident, given to him by Neptune:
Water Manipulation - Ability to control any body of water, create water elementals, speed ships and other water vehicles with water, create fogs and storms of high intensity, summon waves of water to propel him at great speeds, and create earthquakes by increasing water pressure.
Mystic Beams - (Protruding from the trident) It's been constantly depicted that lights or lasers of many colors with many of their own attributes from healing, damaging, cursing and granting.
Mystic Formation - A unique power to transform objects, willing subjects, and even the wielder, to any desired form with added abilities.
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Neptune's_Trident
By the way, this is what he will do to AM's TP:
And this is what he will do to AM's ice:
And I wish AM would try to use electricity:
If AM gets desperate after nothing else works and decides to pull out his Roscoe:
AM will always be Namor's *****.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Namor's Trident, given to him by Neptune:Water Manipulation - Ability to control any body of water, create water elementals, speed ships and other water vehicles with water, create fogs and storms of high intensity, summon waves of water to propel him at great speeds, and create earthquakes by increasing water pressure.
Mystic Beams - (Protruding from the trident) It's been constantly depicted that lights or lasers of many colors with many of their own attributes from healing, damaging, cursing and granting.
Mystic Formation - A unique power to transform objects, willing subjects, and even the wielder, to any desired form with added abilities.
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Neptune's_Trident
By the way, this is what he will do to AM's TP:
And this is what he will do to AM's ice:
And I wish AM would try to use electricity:
If AM gets desperate after nothing else works and decides to pull out his Roscoe:
AM will always be Namor's *****.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Then there's the well practiced technique of citing favorable attributes of the same character over different eras while at the same time claiming that unfavorable showings from bygone eras have no bearing on the present, thus creating an all powerful temporal amalgam character with no discernable weaknesses. I'm sure there will be some masterful mixing and matching in the thread by said parties.
Good words.
Plus, That psychic backlash against Strange was due to him breaking Cytorrak's bands - not due to any TP defence mounted by Namor.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Good words.Plus, That psychic backlash against Strange was due to him breaking Cytorrak's bands - not due to any TP defence mounted by Namor.
It's a combination. What's the purpose of Strange toughing Namor's head with this finger? He doesn't note a "psychic backlash" until he touches his forehead. Strange specifically said he was being "hurled form Namor's MIND."
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Because if Aquaman has his, Namor will have his, plain and simple. Namor carries the Trident quite often and it's not like AM has his all the time. You really need an edge, huh?
No he wouldn't. As per the rules of he board namors trident would NOT be considered standard gear
"it's not like AM has his all the time". Really? Are you being serious? 😬 you really don't know aquaman so not sure why I'm still bothering. Every since the new 52 universe started it has been aquamans standard gear it has never left his hand. Literally he has used it in basically all his appearances in the new 52 universe. Please do some research first before commenting. Your ignorance is making you look bad
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
It's a combination. What's the purpose of Strange toughing Namor's head with this finger? He doesn't note a "psychic backlash" until he touches his forehead. Strange specifically said he was being "hurled form Namor's MIND."
Yes, hurled by the backlash as a side effect of the bands. Namor couldn't do a thing to stop him astrally, note his face as Strange touches him. He's practically a drooling idiot...
Originally posted by -K-M-
*sigh* not like namors trident is standard gear so not sure why it's being debated here.
Originally posted by Genii96
Namor has been using the trident for quite a while recently....his attack on wakanda,then during the incursions,he also used it to battle the society,used it during the cabal's reign and also in secret wars when battling the thors
I'm aware but that would still not make it standard gear as per the rules. Compared to aquaman having it for literally every appearance in the new 52 universe. Now that's considered standard gear
Would we consider hawkmans claw of Horus standard gear then?