Beheading @ Ikea

Started by Slay3 pages

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So you are in complete denial this happened and now turned to its a conspiracy? 😂

Is google biased?

https://www.google.com/webhp?source...kea%20beheading

Your a joke.


No, but the sources it links to definitely are. Barenaked Islam? The Muslim Issue? Patriot Update? I'm supposed to take those as credible sources on an issue like this? Nice try.

Originally posted by Slay
No, but the sources it links to definitely are. Barenaked Islam? The Muslim Issue? Patriot Update? I'm supposed to take those as credible sources on an issue like this? Nice try.

Funny thing is I don't have to convince you of anything, I already know you blind and a fool. A woman lost her life and you claim conspiracy..Why did Ikea already stop selling knives in their stores?

Also is this biased source?

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/sweden-ikea-knife-attack-eritrean-suspect-was-due-be-deported-1515366

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Funny thing is I don't have to convince you of anything, I already know you blind and a fool. A woman lost her life and you claim conspiracy..Why did Ikea already stop selling knives in their stores?

Also is this biased source?

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/sweden-ikea-knife-attack-eritrean-suspect-was-due-be-deported-1515366


When did I claim conspiracy? So you don't know how to contain you your ridiculous argument and resort to personal attacks and somehow imply that I don't care a woman lost her life? You really are reaching.

Originally posted by Slay
When did I claim conspiracy?
Originally posted by Slay

Providing links to anti-Islam conspiracy sites isn't exactly doing your case any good.

Boom

Originally posted by Slay
When did I claim conspiracy? So you don't know how to contain you your ridiculous argument and resort to personal attacks and somehow imply that I don't care a woman lost her life? You really are reaching.

Do you like hurting other people or like seeing other people get hurt?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Boom

So saying that conspiracy-themed anti-Islam sites are not credible sources regarding this matter is claiming that the whole matter is a conspiracy? Ok, haha, nice try.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Funny how you knew this happened and didn't post anything here till actual proof was shown, then once proof is shown, you censor it.

Genesis denies this is a beheading, so clearly he does not think its distressing.

Wait, you think me removing direct IMG tags to what you describe as pics of decapitated corpses is some sort of conspiratorial attack on you?

Despite the fact that not posting potentially offensive images is explicitly forbidden by the rules?

Despite the fact that I LEFT THE LINKS IN so people could look at them if they wished, I merely removed the images from automatic display? That's what you call censorship?

And now you want to use me not posting in the thread as evidence of bias? You don't want to consider at all that I'm simply not interested in the content but as part of my mod job I keep an eye on potentially awkward threads- I admit, I was looking for flaming arguments breaking out rather than corpse pictures, but all the same...

You've crossed the line into the purely paranoid. Get out of your victim complex- you aren't being targeted because you are you, it's just you have a habit of breaking the rules, as you did then rather directly and obviously, and even then I didn't warn you, because I assumed it was just a mistake so I merely removed the tags and provided a reminder.

Clearly, though, you are determined to martyr yourself even when you are receiving reasonable treatment. Martyrdom doesn't count for much online, but I am not going to tolerate this angry victim complex of yours any more, so if you kick off like that again I will ban you, and based on your recent behaviour this place will be much better for it.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Do you like hurting other people or like seeing other people get hurt?
His point is that there is a difference between a religious beheading, like the ones we've seen from ISIS in the Middle East and Northern Africa, and one lone guy going at someone's neck so many times that it mostly severs their head. So saying "Beheading @ IKEA" gives the wrong impression, because one automatically thinks of the ISIS execution videos, and thus ties the attack to radical Islam, when in reality it has likely has little or nothing to do with radical Islam and is, in fact, tied more heavily to mental health and/or immigration.

Originally posted by Scribble
His point is that there is a difference between a religious beheading, like the ones we've seen from ISIS in the Middle East and Northern Africa, and one lone guy going at someone's neck so many times that it mostly severs their head. So saying "Beheading @ IKEA" gives the wrong impression, because one automatically thinks of the ISIS execution videos, and thus ties the attack to radical Islam, when in reality it has likely has little or nothing to do with radical Islam and is, in fact, tied more heavily to mental health and/or immigration.

That's not exactly what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that there's not been one credible news source that has confirmed there was a beheading involved, whether orchestrated like ISIS nor one lone guy hacking away at someone's head. What's been reported is a stabbing. Nor is there a source that confirms that the guy who did this was even muslim to begin with. How Islam even factors into this discussion is beyond me.

Like I said before, assuming this man was Muslim because he's Eritrean is stretching it. He might just as well be Christian. Or atheist for that matter, truth is we have no clue what his religious beliefs are.

Originally posted by Slay
That's not exactly what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that there's not been one credible news source that has confirmed there was a beheading involved, whether orchestrated like ISIS nor one lone guy hacking away at someone's head. What's been reported is a stabbing. Nor is there a source that confirms that the guy who did this was even muslim to begin with. How Islam even factors into this discussion is beyond me.

Like I said before, assuming this man was Muslim because he's Eritrean is stretching it. He might just as well be Christian. Or atheist for that matter, truth is we have no clue what his religious beliefs are.

That was part of what I was saying, but yeah, maybe I probably didn't make that clear enough. "Radical Islam" and "terrorist" are Right Wing buzzwords, and if something violent like this happens then usually Muslims are the first to be blamed, which is in itself ridiculous (i.e. the casting of blame onto an entire religion). In this kind of a case though, the man's religion (whatever it is) isn't a point, since nothing in the story indicates that this was in any way religiously motivated, and it makes all the more ridiculous to frame the story so that it seems from the bat that it's another ISIS attack, but this time happening on European soil, which is a pretty big jump from what actually happened.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Funny thing is I don't have to convince you of anything, I already know you blind and a fool. A woman lost her life and you claim conspiracy..Why did Ikea already stop selling knives in their stores?

Also is this biased source?

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/sweden-ikea-knife-attack-eritrean-suspect-was-due-be-deported-1515366


Also, I'd like to add, regardless of whether the source is credible, the article in that link confirms about everything I've said so far in this thread, so I don't see where you think you're going with this. So far your attempts at "breaking" me have only displayed your lack of talent for comprehensive reading and your willingness to believe any source as long as they confirm what you want to believe.

QUOTE=15344993]Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So what was this "Oh this never happened?"

You feel bad for downplaying now?

Nice retreat from you previous stance though. [/QUOTE]

nope dont feel bad for "downplaying"
once again what ever happened isnt of the described magnitiude because i am finding quite a few inconsistant sources on the matter

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Funny how you knew this happened and didn't post anything here till actual proof was shown, then once proof is shown, you censor it.

Genesis denies this is a beheading, so clearly he does not think its distressing.


wow your looking for a mod conspiracy
i just want more substanscial and corroborated proof from well known and reliable sources

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So you are still denying this was a beheading even though the head has been removed and the pics I posted, Ush censored them?

There is blood everywhere, open you eyes.

i am saying i am not seeing the blood nor properly seeing above the neck, get a better photo if possible. given the quality i could compare this to some hillbilly's photo of bigfoot

once again unbiased sources would be nice about now

Swedish government is doing everything it has to censor the leaked photos and videos by witnesses to prevent "Islamophobia."

This is a fine example of cultural Marxism, where freedom of speech is nothing but an illusion.

hence there is going to be bias and propaganda around this