Originally posted by StiltmanFTWIt was during Original Sin. IIRC, BP no sold emma's TP and she even went on to say that his mind was like a trap filled with spikes that had been set on fire.
The Cable incident I know about. Emma?So, 2 feats in his whole history? Wolverine's no-sold Emma and got props from Xavier for his mental defenses and Gorgon had no trouble reading him and even messing with his mind a bit at the end of AOS.
What I ask next is a serious question. Without the sword how is gorgon going to harm BP? His suit has allowed him to take hits from characters like Iron Fist, Namor, Terrax, etc.
Originally posted by deathslash
It was during Original Sin. IIRC, BP no sold emma's TP and she even went on to say that his mind was like a trap filled with spikes that had been set on fire.What I ask next is a serious question. Without the sword how is gorgon going to harm BP? His suit has allowed him to take hits from characters like Iron Fist, Namor, Terrax, etc.
Correct deathslash, I was just going to bring that up. Haters gonna hate.
Originally posted by deathslash
It was during Original Sin. IIRC, BP no sold emma's TP and she even went on to say that his mind was like a trap filled with spikes that had been set on fire.What I ask next is a serious question. Without the sword how is gorgon going to harm BP? His suit has allowed him to take hits from characters like Iron Fist, Namor, Terrax, etc.
Gorgon managed to worm his way into Elektra and Wolverines' minds....both have way more anti TP feats, tbh.
As for hurting him? Stone stare. His suit's great and all, but he's still affected by force, despite the vibranium weave.
He's also caught legit speedsters before, and has a pretty good bullet timing feat (rather insane, actually).
Originally posted by DarkSaint85that's an undeniable truth. However, we should also remember that even cable had trouble even detecting BP's mind. I'm also wondering how much the Phoenix force weakened her. Is she still near her previous levels of power or did she drop a lot? I'm also still waiting for someone to answer my serious question on how gorgon would damage BP without the grasscutter.
Bear in mind, this is obviously after AvX; Emma isn't what she used to be (all the Phoenix 5 have less control/powers, especially Emma/Cyke):
What? The question should be how will BP damage Gorgon. Wolverine couldn't hurt Gorgon in the slightest, and he threw everything, he had and then some. On top of that, Logan with his claws is one of the most offensively potent street characters there is, if he can't hurt Gorgon BP doesn't have a prayer.
Originally posted by deathslash
that's an undeniable truth. However, we should also remember that even cable had trouble even detecting BP's mind. I'm also wondering how much the Phoenix force weakened her. Is she still near her previous levels of power or did she drop a lot? I'm also still waiting for someone to answer my serious question on how gorgon would damage BP without the grasscutter.
Stone stare. A simple answer (think you missed my post). Otherwise, Panther has been hurt by blunt force trauma, even through the vibranium weave.
This is what two of the biggest killers in Marvel did to Gorgon. Note, they had tech up the wazoo at the time, too:
And he kept on ticking. This is with a normal blade, IIRC.
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Some of the tech they were packing. Which, incidentally, is similar to what BP packs. This is the scan preceding the large one above, where Elektra/Wolverine teleport in and use a surprise attack:
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Originally posted by Khazra RebornShang chi could and was hurting gorgon (he even managed to drop him to one of his knees). That should show that enough damage can put even the likes of gorgon on the ground. We both know that BP'S made namor bleed with his punches. You still didn't answer the question either. Without the grasscutter, what can gorgon do to hurt t'challa?
What? The question should be how will BP damage Gorgon. Wolverine couldn't hurt Gorgon in the slightest, and he threw everything, he had and then some. On top of that, Logan with his claws is one of the most offensively potent street characters there is, if he can't hurt Gorgon BP doesn't have a prayer.
Originally posted by deathslash
Shang chi could and was hurting gorgon (he even managed to drop him to one of his knees). That should show that enough damage can put even the likes of gorgon on the ground. We both know that BP'S made namor bleed with his punches. You still didn't answer the question either. Without the grasscutter, what can gorgon do to hurt t'challa?
Having a low showing against....Shang Chi, lol, is not as bad as a low showing against Storm in h2h (he was affected by her punches - he can still be damaged through his suit by a human).
Besides, his HF is insane. As shown by him taking out a teched up Wolvie AND Elektra even after they've snuck attack him.
Stone stare.
Originally posted by deathslash
Shang chi could and was hurting gorgon (he even managed to drop him to one of his knees). That should show that enough damage can put even the likes of gorgon on the ground. We both know that BP'S made namor bleed with his punches. You still didn't answer the question either. Without the grasscutter, what can gorgon do to hurt t'challa?
Shang Chi was triple amped, and he gave all he had, and it didn't do anything. Knocking Gorgon down is a whole lot different than coming anywhere close to beating him.
How wouldn't he hurt BP? He's more than twice as strong, he's every bit as skilled, considerably faster, and can turn him into a rock with a look. Gorgon can just cut him up with his sword, or just beat the shit out of him. Easy peasy.
