GL Captain America vs Green Lantern gauntlet

Originally posted by Deadline
In his own realm he's like The beyonder or at the very least he's skyfather level. Odin is weaker outside his realm and from what I've gathered Nightmare is more powerful than Odin would be in Asagard. It's kinda like Nightmare is one with the realm, as opposed to Odin simply being more powerful.

So how powerful is his WILL?

Because pure power =/= willpower/

Otherwise, Abhi dances for joy because Superman out-willed Emperor Joker. Someone who was messing with the fabric of DC.

Using the Beyonder is a bad idea, as he's a child.

So, again, how powerful is his will? For you to say Cap beat him using willpower, implies Nightmare has some insane willpower feats, and Cap topping that is beastly.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So how powerful is his WILL?

Because pure power =/= willpower/

Otherwise, Abhi dances for joy because Superman out-willed Emperor Joker. Someone who was messing with the fabric of DC.

Yea I would, I would say in general if you're really really powerful you tend to have a strong will. The thing about Nightmare is that you could say hes a being of pure will in the sense that he comes from the dream dimesnion. The dream dimension isn't a physical place, it's a mental dimension and he's a ruler. So yea he has powerful will be default.

Thing is Joker got his powerful from tricking Mxy, Mxy ain't that smart. Eventhough Korvac isn't as powerful as Mxy what he did to get it was more impressive. He trciked an advanced alien race and a sub skyfather level being who has superhuman intelligence. What did Superman do exactly? Also you need to consider that Supermans superhuman qualities would have helped with his willpower.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Using the Beyonder is a bad idea, as he's a child.

So, again, how powerful is his will? For you to say Cap beat him using willpower, implies Nightmare has some insane willpower feats, and Cap topping that is beastly.

Good point, but the thing about children is sometimes they have intuition also Beyonder has cosmic sense. Also I would say his intution was right because Thor has said he would follow him into hell. Cap has been able to lift Thors hammer etc etc. So Beyonder was right to do so.

Originally posted by abhilegend

So no, it wasn't a brute sonic attack, whatever that means.

I'll explain again a brute force attack just attacks the body. The sonic attacks I refernced were designed specifically to attack the mind.

Originally posted by Deadline
Yea I would, I would say in general if you're really really powerful you tend to have a strong will. The thing about Nightmare is that you could say hes a being of pure will in the sense that he comes from the dream dimesnion. The dream dimension isn't a physical place, it's a mental dimension and he's a ruler. So yea he has powerful will be default.

Thing is Joker got his powerful from tricking Mxy, Mxy ain't that smart. Eventhough Korvac isn't as powerful as Mxy what he did to get it was more impressive. He trciked an advanced alien race and a sub skyfather level being who has superhuman intelligence. What did Superman do exactly? Also you need to consider that Supermans superhuman qualities would have helped with his willpower.

Good point, but the thing about children is sometimes they have intuition also Beyonder has cosmic sense. Also I would say his intution was right because Thor has said he would follow him into hell. Cap has been able to lift Thors hammer etc etc. So Beyonder was right to do so.

I'll explain again a brute force attack just attacks the body. The sonic attacks I refernced were designed specifically to attack the mind.

No, it wasn't a brute sonic attack.

You are already beaten in this argument. Give it up.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, it wasn't a brute sonic attack.

You are already beaten in this argument. Give it up.

So you got no proof that it attacked the soul, and the other stuff you were claiming (Batman beating trans)?

Got it.

Originally posted by Deadline
So you got no proof that it attacked the soul, and the other stuff you were claiming (Batman beating trans)?

Got it.

You don't know anything about Silver Banshee, do you?

Originally posted by Delta1938
You don't know anything about Silver Banshee, do you?

Ya don't say. That's why I'm asking for proof. Oh by the way....

Notice that he says 'I find the will' and not the ring, but yes the ring can do the reacting for the GLs just not all the time.

https://i.imgur.com/nGUyGXv.png
http://i.imgur.com/18kYgQ1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mq7W79N.jpg

The ring jobs to Cap.

Originally posted by Deadline
Ya don't say. That's why I'm asking for proof. Oh by the way....

Notice that he says 'I find the will' and not the ring, but yes the ring can do the reacting for the GLs just not all the time.

https://i.imgur.com/nGUyGXv.png
http://i.imgur.com/18kYgQ1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mq7W79N.jpg

She has more than just a sonic attack. She can literally kill people by saying their name. Magick.

Alan's ring is different. Not to mention, Alan is his own Central Battery (the Starheart).

Hal specifically says he can't touch him...but needs to do an AoE attack.

Flash was mindcontrolled.

Is that the best you could find?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Alan's ring is different. Not to mention, Alan is his own Central Battery (the Starheart).

Hal specifically says he can't touch him...but needs to do an AoE attack.

Flash was mindcontrolled.

Is that the best you could find?

Plus, wrong thread. When I saw the first, I thought he meant them for someone else, since I've largely just been an observer, and ignored the other two thinking it was for some other argument.

Then I saw him post them in the appropriate thread. I think he just made an argument based on assumption and it's too important for him to let go.

Originally posted by Delta1938
She has more than just a sonic attack. She can literally kill people by saying their name. Magick.

Not sure if I trust you still want proof it attacks the soul.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Alan's ring is different. Not to mention, Alan is his own Central Battery (the Starheart).

Yea it is different the difference is that Alans ring is magic but it does the same thing that other GL rings do. I think he would beat another GL lantern though that doesnt matter because they have the same limitations.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Hal specifically says he can't touch him...but needs to do an AoE attack.

facepalm He still got him though didn't he, and it wasn't an AOE attack stop exaggerating. Oh and Zoom >>> Superman.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Flash was mindcontrolled.

Is that the best you could find?

Fair enough but theres no reason to think that his speed was greatly diminshed. Personally i don't always buy the he's mind control argument as an excuse. Don't see how Parallax possessing Kyle made him weaker if anything he seemed tougher.

Originally posted by Deadline
Not sure if I trust you still want proof it attacks the soul.

I haven't seen it explained what exactly it does to kill, but looking at this--

--it's obviously not a mere sonic attack. Unless you think a sonic attack turns someone into a withered husk.

Originally posted by Deadline
Yea it is different the difference is that Alans ring is magic but it does the same thing that other GL rings do. I think he would beat another GL lantern though that doesnt matter because they have the same limitations.

facepalm He still got him though didn't he, and it wasn't an AOE attack stop exaggerating. Oh and Zoom >>> Superman.

Fair enough but theres no reason to think that his speed was greatly diminshed. Personally i don't always buy the he's mind control argument as an excuse. Don't see how Parallax possessing Kyle made him weaker if anything he seemed tougher.

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Silver Banshee has some magic on her.

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She is magic based.

Ill look into my scans to see if I can find how her power works exactly

Her scream took away Superman's powers and gave them to Batman.

She definitely has magic.

I'd say this thread is worth a bump now that we have new information. I successfully goaded Abby into throwing out a GL feat in the midst of wanking GL against Surfer. According to him, rookie GLs remake universes like normal kids do arts and crafts:

Again, this is what Rookie GLs do. Cap could probably take on a Beyonder or two. 😂

DC characters are just more powerful than marvel. Here is Vixen and Animal Man with one more character creating universe.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Animal man and 2 other morphogenetic field users create a universe.

😂

What say you?

Originally posted by abhilegend
DC characters are just more powerful than marvel. Here is Vixen and Animal Man with one more character creating universe.

What say you?

I say D.C. Universe's universes job hard and tricks are for kids. 💃

Lol. In this thread, thanks to BAV's scans, it shows that ALL GLs should be capable of the same feat - i.e. every single member of Cap's gauntlet.

Except, of course, they have more experience, and in the case of Hal et al, some of the gauntlet actually have feats of doing it (thanks BAV!).

Cap loses horribly.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol. In this thread, thanks to BAV's scans, it shows that ALL GLs should be capable of the same feat - i.e. every single member of Cap's gauntlet.

Except, of course, they have more experience, and in the case of Hal et al, some of the gauntlet actually have feats of doing it (thanks BAV!).

Cap loses horribly.

That's your take son. My take is that Cap will easily exceed them all. None of the GLs have the Super Soldier Serum. And let's not forget how Superman easily shatters their constructs. 😕

Glad to see you are a complete D.C. hardliner and not the fair and balanced beacon of neutrality you fancy yourself to be.