Logan vs. Baleman

No weapons, no claws, no healing factor, no armor, no gadgets, no adamantium, no nothing.

Just Logan and Baleman fighting pure h2h in the octagon to see who's more skilled. Who wins?

This is actually a close one IMO. Similar size, build etc. for both guys. Neither are the most skilled guys around, but both are still skilled in combat. I would go with Baleman though. Logan's fighting style relies a lot on his claws, and skeleton to allow him to tank hits. Without them, I see Baleman, who we have seen can take on multiple opponents with nothing but his bare hands, getting the win.

Logan still displayed highly enhanced strength and durability even when he was bone claw. Shown when he fought Sabretooth. His hits will have Bruce on the ropes, and despite his wild fighting style, he is still a trained soldier(for several generations) who would fall back to his training if he was forced to fight with no powers. He's also got a lot of reaction feats that make Baleman look like he's in slow-mo in comparison.

Unless you've removed that as well.

The way I understood the thread was that it was basically Hugh Jackman with Wolverine's skill and fighting style vs Christian Bale with Batman's skill and fighting style, but I might have gotten that wrong. I just figured the "no nothing" meant no enhancements at all. Hence why I would pick Baleman to win.

If Logan still had things like his naturally enhanced strength, senses etc. but just not the healing, claws and adamantium, this match would most likely go in his favour.

Baleman loses again, the guy just isn't good enough to hang with even a half-way decent action hero.

Logan. Even in the movies the guy participated in many wars and has decades of experience.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
The way I understood the thread was that it was basically Hugh Jackman with Wolverine's skill and fighting style vs Christian Bale with Batman's skill and fighting style, but I might have gotten that wrong. I just figured the "no nothing" meant no enhancements at all. Hence why I would pick Baleman to win.

If Logan still had things like his naturally enhanced strength, senses etc. but just not the healing, claws and adamantium, this match would most likely go in his favour.

Yup. No enhancements at all. Pure skill only.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Baleman loses again, the guy just isn't good enough to hang with even a half-way decent action hero.

next march I wonder how many people will use Affleck Bats? Since he is based on the comics

Baleman all the way.

Yeah, All the way to the morgue.

Why would he go there? He's not Logan's relative.

Baleman is a loser that has almost no chance of beating any decent action hero unless sed hero is massively handicapped.

Good thing Wolverine is massively handicapped here per stips.

Not enough to lose to Baleman.

Hurry up Affleckman

baleman doesnt do well
logan has been fighting and brawling for what, 200 years give or take

Doesnt mean anything. Logan could have just as easily fallen to Bane, whilst wearing all that "encumbering" batsuit gear. Bane punched through cinder block walls man.

I love Batman to death, he's my second-favorite superhero of all time. Sadly, he loses this match-up.

Wolvie has HUNDREDS of years more experience then Baleman, who has maybe a max of not even 20 years, like really.

Wolvie is no push-over as a fighter either, knocking out Blob with one punch is nothing to scoff at.

Wolvie has the more lethal weaponry, and if an Adamantium bullet won't put him down, Batman won't do anything against him.

Silent Master is going to be giving some wins to Batman starting in March.

Only if he deserves them.