Originally posted by john allerdyceKibito was definitely powerful by 'normal' standards. However, I'd still put him decisively below Freeza-level, given that he couldn't even budge the Z Sword:
Ok so how powerful was this guy? He seemed pretty strong, but he was also oneshotted by Dabura (who treated him like a fly.) Was he around SS level?
The same Sword that base Gohan and Goku were able to lift right away:
http://i.imgur.com/jjM3nUX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DHlGgxh.jpg
According to those scenes, base Saiyans >> Kibito... And as we know: Freeza >> base Saiyans(even during the Boo saga.) So yeah... srug
Originally posted by john allerdyceYes. He also brought unbounded teleportation to the table... Which was/is huge. 👆
Did he bring ANYTHING to the table except for Dende-type healing?
The Z Sword wasn't really implied to have some sort of Mjolnir-esque spell in place that prevented certain beings from lifting it. As Goku and Gohan both noted: the Sword itself was just really, really heavy. That's why Kibito couldn't budge it.
Ultimately, all of the legend/lore/myth that surrounded the Sword was just referring to Elder Kaioshin and his power-up.
Originally posted by Galan007
The Z Sword wasn't really implied to have some sort of Mjolnir-esque spell in place that prevented certain beings from lifting it. As Goku and Gohan both noted: the Sword itself was just really, really heavy. That's why Kibito couldn't budge it.Ultimately, all of the legend/lore/myth that surrounded the Sword was just referring to Elder Kaioshin and his power-up.
What was the mass of the Z-Sword?
Any estimates?