Count Dooku Gauntlet

Started by Beniboybling4 pages

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Darth Malgus is superior to Count Dooku in official standing in Legends
While I don't disagree that Malgus > Dooku, none of that you've brought up is proof of that.
Malgus submitted utterly to the dark side, and doing so made him an exemplary warrior. His battlefield feats have never been duplicated. (Darth Sidious)
Dooku was not a warrior, and rarely if ever entered the front lines as a Sith Lord, no member of the Banite line did.
"There in the hangars I encountered the most dangerous embodiment of the dark side I have ever experienced-the man who would later be known as Darth Malgus." (Satele Shan)
Satele has obviously never beheld Dooku, so this is beyond moot.
In his quest for domination, Darth Sidious tracked down what remained of five pivotal Sith texts written by his most powerful predecessors. (Book of Sith: Secrets from the Dark Side)*
Dooku is not among Sidious' predecessors, if anything he was a false successor.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Vitiate is not a Sith. He pretended to be for a long time but he isn't.
While untrue it's irrelevant, Sidious says "predecessors" not "Sith" predecessors.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
No one thinks Skotia can put the Count down?
If he had Skeesk and Skarsk, maybe. He does have supreme hype in an encyclopedic medium.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
While I don't disagree that Malgus > Dooku, none of that you've brought up is proof of that.

See below.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Dooku was not a warrior, and rarely if ever entered the front lines as a Sith Lord, no member of the Banite line did.

Count Dooku was not a warrior based on what? Why did he hone his skills in Makashi?

Dooku openly challenged Jedi during the war. He did not hide his identity and motives like Bannite Sith in general. Being on the front-lines is not necessary to establish credibility as a warrior.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Dooku is not among Sidious' predecessors, if anything he was a false successor.

This does not means that Sidious excluded him from evaluation.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
While untrue it's irrelevant, Sidious says "predecessors" not "Sith" predecessors.

Vitiate's identity as a Sith remains in doubt. His actions, post-Great Galactic War, are not Sith-friendly. And if he is Emperor Valkorion, then this only strengthens my argument. A practitioner of the Dark Side is not necessarily a Sith. Also, a Sith can stop being one.

Originally posted by Selenial
Not sure why Shaak Ti is below Kas'im and Leneer mmm

👆

Stops at Malgus or Kun.

Personally I've always seen Dooku as above Malgus but that's just me. I also believe the title most powerful or one of the most powerful is in a way used very loosely. Almost everywhere you look someone is labeled as one of the most powerful of all time or something like that.

Also Legends contradicts itself a lot so attempting to use it as proof to substain something in the way legends is using it will cause for mass disruption.

Dooku was not a warrior. He openly attacked Jedi? I can't fully agree to that. Remember when Dooku fought Anakin and Obi wan for the last time before ROTS and Anakin says for once you came to do your own dirty work and he replies sometimes things are just that important. That shows he isnt just out there doing everything.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Count Dooku was not a warrior based on what? Why did he hone his skills in Makashi?

Dooku openly challenged Jedi during the war. He did not hide his identity and motives like Bannite Sith in general. Being on the front-lines is not necessary to establish credibility as a warrior.

As in a warrior who fought on the battlefield, Dooku did not, hence no battlefield feats.

But that doesn't make Malgus a superior Force user any more than it does Vitiate, who also has no battlefield feats.

This does not means that Sidious excluded him from evaluation.
Yes it does lol.
Vitiate's identity as a Sith remains in doubt. His actions, post-Great Galactic War, are not Sith-friendly. And if he is Emperor Valkorion, then this only strengthens my argument. A practitioner of the Dark Side is not necessarily a Sith. Also, a Sith can stop being one.
You seemed to have missed the point entirely, Sidious is referring to his predecessors of the dark side in general, not Sith, I'd point out that Talzin is not a Sith.

Guess Sidious didn't think Vitiate worthy of mention. Figures.

Or nothing from Vitiate survived or made it into Sidious' hand. Or the bastard never wrote anything, seeing as he never intended there to be anyone after him to pass anything to.

Sidious has good reason not to mention Vitiate too, since he copied most of his ideas from him. 😆

*slow clap*

Which is why this supposed accolade means jack all.

Yeah, the wording of the summary makes it pretty clear that those who wrote those texts were Sidious's most powerful predecessors. If it were just referring to the most powerful predecessors whose writings were still in existence, the summary would have said "surviving texts written by SOME OF his most powerful predecessors." But the wording used says otherwise.

But that's why I disregard publisher's summaries.

Or it's like how Braga's strike team were called "the most powerful Jedi" despite no Barsen'thor, Satele or Kaeden.

Which is similarly bad wording if it lacks that kind of qualifier.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Stops at the b0ss.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Just kidding guys, Malgus kicks his old ass

Throw yourself into a bin, Carthage.

😍

mmm

Dooku throws a cruiser. They die. excellent

EDIT:

Better credit me for finding that stuff Nova :no1:

Dies at the False Emperor.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Dies at the False Emperor.
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy