Mystic Gohan vs Frieza
Gohan at his peak by the end of DBZ.
Vs.
Resurrected and trained Frieza in his 1st (of 5) Form.
Frieza one-shotted a Super Saiyan Gohan in the latest movie. However Gohan was far weaker than what he used to be.
How would 1st Form Frieza fare against the once formidable Gohan. Would Frieza be in for a shocking surprise, or would he dispatch Gohan quickly all the same?
Maybe there is not enough information. But would like to hear your thoughts!
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Originally posted by bbrem123
Frieza all day long. Wasnt he said to be the largest power they have ever felt?
Don't recall, but I wouldn't believe it anyway.
SSG Goku > 1st Form Frieza, so it can't be true. Unless SSG Goku's power can't be "sensed". Even if they have not "felt" the power of SSG Goku or Beerus, they have seen them in action. Should be able to tell Frieza was not close to their level in base form.
Originally posted by carver9
Akira said Gohan power remained the same in DBS versus his Z self. With that said, Frieza would kill him in one hit again.
Meh, more interested in people's opinions over what Akira says. I don't take anything he says seriously. Gohan didn't even know if he could turn Super Saiyan, and it was said in the context that he had not trained in forever (apparently 6 months to a few years - but Gohan just feels piss weak). There is no way he is the same strength he was in DBZ.
Originally posted by carver9
Don't think you understand the power gap here.
Don't think you understand Super Buu's power set here. No guarantee Goku would be immune to transmutation like Vegito. No guarantee Goku can perma kill Buu like Vegito either.
Like I said "probably" because there are still unknowns
Originally posted by juggerman
Don't think you understand Super Buu's power set here. No guarantee Goku would be immune to transmutation like Vegito. No guarantee Goku can perma kill Buu like Vegito either.Like I said "probably" because there are still unknowns
If the power gap is significant like I'm thinking then Buu candy attack wouldn't even hit Goku. Vegito played around with Super Buu. If Goku took it serious, his base form could probably take him out in a single attack. This is the reason I'm saying you probably don't understand the power gap here.
Remember, Goku BASE form was matching FINAL form Frieza. Frieza FIRST form, his base, was higher than any power level they've felt. That was Frieza BASE form. Imagine the power difference between his base and his final form and again, Goku in his base form matched him. That would mean, base Goku is significantly more powerful than Buuhan. Think about it for a bit.
Originally posted by carver9
If the power gap is significant like I'm thinking then Buu candy attack wouldn't even hit Goku. Vegito played around with Super Buu. If Goku took it serious, his base form could probably take him out in a single attack. This is the reason I'm saying you probably don't understand the power gap here.Remember, Goku BASE form was matching FINAL form Frieza. Frieza FIRST form, his base, was higher than any power level they've felt. That was Frieza BASE form. Imagine the power difference between his base and his final form and again, Goku in his base form matched him. That would mean, base Goku is significantly more powerful than Buuhan. Think about it for a bit.
You are making assumptions again. We know the fusion that created Vegito was magical in nature and therefore we cannot say for certain that Goku could affect Buu in the same way. Buu's ki based attacks would do absolutely nothing to Goku. However, his candy attack is magical in nature and we do not know the limits of it.
Also we don't know if Vegito's ability to perma kill Buu was because of his crazy high ki or if it was a side effect of the magical fusion. Without the answer to that question we cannot say for sure if Goku can keep Buu down
With all that being said, I would side with Goku but truth be told we do not know 100% due to Goku not having the magical stuff
Originally posted by juggerman
You are making assumptions again. We know the fusion that created Vegito was magical in nature and therefore we cannot say for certain that Goku could affect Buu in the same way. Buu's ki based attacks would do absolutely nothing to Goku. However, his candy attack is magical in nature and we do not know the limits of it.Also we don't know if Vegito's ability to perma kill Buu was because of his crazy high ki or if it was a side effect of the magical fusion. Without the answer to that question we cannot say for sure if Goku can keep Buu down
With all that being said, I would side with Goku but truth be told we do not know 100% due to Goku not having the magical stuff
Magical? Wait a minute. When did magical ever been mentioned concerning Vegito?
Originally posted by carver9How do you explain Vegetto retaining his complete power/sentience after being transmuted into a piece of candy, if not magical?
Doesn't mean he was shooting off magical Ki or had anything magical done to him power wise. The only purpose for the earrings was to fuse them. Nothing more, nothing less.