Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I suppose the only real way that he could have won that was if he could have lifted all of them at once, or done what krell did and repulsed them all back.
Krell didn't have troopers forming a circumference around him. And there were not as many troopers surrounding as pirates either IIRC.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Krell didn't have troopers forming a circumference around him. And there were not as many troopers surrounding as pirates either IIRC.
There were about like 10+ or so that were surrounding Krell. That and the Clones were wanting to have him surrender, so they weren't really going for the kill.
Originally posted by Zenwolf
There were about like 10+ or so that were surrounding Krell. That and the Clones were wanting to have him surrender, so they weren't really going for the kill.
Yeah exactly. And he had that window to jump out of, and then he kept running taking them down a few at a time in a forest type environment.
Totally different to Dooku being completely surrounded by 3 times that number in an open area with no where to run, so he'd literally have to take them all out in one big 360degree force wave without even 1 shot getting through.
Also lets not forget the same pirates shooting off Maul's legs. And Maul wasn't surrounded. They were all in front of him. So I think that's just too many to take head on like that in Canon. Take them out a few at a time Krell style is possible though. Depends on the environment, and Vos's position when these troopers turn on him.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah, I mean even Yoda only had to kill 2 Troopers to survive.Also redpill you seem pretty confident we're getting Vos in Rebels.
filoni wrote DD and didnt kill him off at the end. dd was supposed to be very last season of tcw 🤣 🤣 🤣
is there any stated limit on how many seasons of rebels we will get?
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Krell didn't have troopers forming a circumference around him. And there were not as many troopers surrounding as pirates either IIRC.
I think he did is why he put forth his energy toward the entire room,many while I admit Hondo had more people to him it's a quality vs quantity thing. The 12+ troops would beat those pirates.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I think he did is why he put forth his energy toward the entire room,many while I admit Hondo had more people to him it's a quality vs quantity thing. The 12+ troops would beat those pirates.
Well that's subjective. Hondo has actually gone toe to toe with Skywalker on his own (stupid I know, but it happened).
I actually think it's quantity over quality tbh. Too many numbers eventually get Jedi, especially if they're completely surrounded. As seen on Geonosis.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well that's subjective. Hondo has actually gone toe to toe with Skywalker on his own (stupid I know, but it happened).I actually think it's quantity over quality tbh. Too many numbers eventually get Jedi, especially if they're completely surrounded. As seen on Geonosis.
True.
I say quality over quantity because what if you have 100 warriors who can't do anything right vs 50 warriors who are well trained and bred for combat. I woudl go for the 50 warriors. Also isn't the CIS outnumber the republic Army or did it not? Still what are you thoughts on this. Do you think Dooku has enough power to possibly lift all 50 of those pirates at once.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well that's subjective. Hondo has actually gone toe to toe with Skywalker on his own (stupid I know, but it happened).I actually think it's quantity over quality tbh. Too many numbers eventually get Jedi, especially if they're completely surrounded. As seen on Geonosis.
Eh Hondo's fight with Anakin was pretty poor actually and he had help, he didn't really go toe to toe with him. Plus looked to me Anakin was also holding back.
Originally posted by Zenwolf
Eh Hondo's fight with Anakin was pretty poor actually and he had help, he didn't really go toe to toe with him. Plus looked to me Anakin was also holding back.
I'm not denying any of that (although help from his pet is pretty lame). Just proving that Hondo's obviously a pretty skilled warrior, so we can't really say for sure those Clone Troopers > Hondo's pirates.
Especially given Hondo's pirates shot off Maul's legs.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
True.I say quality over quantity because what if you have 100 warriors who can't do anything right vs 50 warriors who are well trained and bred for combat. I woudl go for the 50 warriors. Also isn't the CIS outnumber the republic Army or did it not? Still what are you thoughts on this. Do you think Dooku has enough power to possibly lift all 50 of those pirates at once.
Dunno. Not sure lifting the pirates would stop them all from firing. He'd have to knock them all down in 1 Force Repulse, then quickly grab his Saber, and start taking them out a few at a time Krell style.
But again given Maul got his legs shot off by them, I have doubts Dooku would have faired much better under worse circumstances.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
I'm not denying any of that (although help from his pet is pretty lame). Just proving that Hondo's obviously a pretty skilled warrior, so we can't really say for sure those Clone Troopers > Hondo's pirates.Especially given Hondo's pirates shot off Maul's legs.
Dunno. Not sure lifting the pirates would stop them all from firing. He'd have to knock them all down in 1 Force Repulse, then quickly grab his Saber, and start taking them out a few at a time Krell style.
But again given Maul got his legs shot off by them, I have doubts Dooku would have faired much better under worse circumstances.
I would say he could have done it with a repulse like krell did given he is m uh more powerful than Krell. So shooting off a leg form someone who is running away puts them on par with clone troopers bred for combat?
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I would say he could have done it with a repulse like krell did given he is m uh more powerful than Krell.
Again, Krell faced better odds than Dooku. There was no where near as many troopers as pirates, and Krell already had his Sabers on him, yet still Krell escaped through the window, and then began running and taking out the clones a few at a time.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So shooting off a leg form someone who is running away puts them on par with clone troopers bred for combat?
Huh? Well considering the guy whose leg they shot off was Darth Maul, I'd say yes.
And the pirates didn't even have Maul completely surrounded. But to be fair, there were a lot of pirates shooting at Maul.
Originally posted by Darth ThorLet's not forget that maul was also supporting his heavily injured brother as they were running away. That would probably hinder his ability to dodge or deflect blaster shots.Huh? Well considering the guy whose leg they shot off was Darth Maul, I'd say yes.
And the pirates didn't even have Maul completely surrounded. But to be fair, there were a lot of pirates shooting at Maul.