Originally posted by Lord Stark
He's the Wrath of the Sith Empire who defeated the Emperor's Voice. He hasn't really show much in Force power so yeah I'd say he's solidly above the Wrath.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
See how that means absolutely nothing? Cin Drallig was the Battlemaster of the Jedi Order too. Must be the most amazeball swordsman of all time.
Mmm he was the Master of the seven forms, stated by Dooku to be capable of lol stomping Grievous while he was out of shape and out of his prime. So yeah he's pretty good.
You also ignored the fact that the HoT is the closest person in history to killing the Emperor as per Marr. Closer than Revan, Meetra, and Scourge combined. So yeah he's solidly above the Wrath. (Not to mention he seems to be the canon choice for the new updates, meaning he's likely the only hero to survive the Great War and the rise of the new Empire).
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
HoT didn't even defeat a fully powered Vitiate
Damn he must suck.
Anyway, being the Battlemaster means that by proxy he's a master of multiple if not all forms, which means he's versatile and equipped to deal with most situations. Even in his early career, he was capable of topping some of the greatest Jedi and Sith swordsmasters, and defeated a Sith warlord who was offered a seat on the Dark Council for his might. Then you have him getting the upper hand against Vitiate's Mr. 300 years old executioner, taking down amped versions of 3 of the Jedi's finest, and fought through the Imperial Guard that Nyriss admitted she couldn't withstand; on a Dark Side nexus. HoT has really done nothing but impress, I see no reason to think the Wrath is better than him.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Damn he must suck.
Anyway, being the Battlemaster means that by proxy he's a master of multiple if not all forms, which means he's versatile and equipped to deal with most situations.
Even in his early career, he was capable of topping some of the greatest Jedi and Sith swordsmasters, and defeated a Sith warlord who was offered a seat on the Dark Council for his might.
Then you have him getting the upper hand against Vitiate's Mr. 300 years old executioner,
taking down amped versions of 3 of the Jedi's finest,
and fought through the Imperial Guard that Nyriss admitted she couldn't withstand; on a Dark Side nexus.
HoT has really done nothing but impress, I see no reason to think the Wrath is better than him.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Holy strawman, Batman. Never said the HoT was terrible.
I found the way you said that amusing, lighten up.
Hell, I never even said the HoT was weaker than the Wrath.
Your posts strongly suggest that's where you stand, though.
Means literal shit when the Wrath actually has accolades of "mastering the saber" you know instead of just having a job. Besides the fact that there have been plenty of Battlemasters that don't stack up just because they are Battlemasters.
One can become a master duelist by specializing in one or two forms, one can't become a Battlemaster that way. That's the difference.
Completely disregards that none of these are sabers only, or any of these for that matter,
Generally his opponents have more to say for themselves than him in the Force anyway, so cool?
Except it's fought "to a standstill,"
About as much of a standstill as Satele vs Mehkis. Scourge was on his knees.
These are not the three finest, or most powerful, Jedi in the Order.
"Of" the finest, most powerful Jedi in the Order. Which they are.
Yeah, and so did the HoT's entire crew, the Revanites, the Exile, the Wrath for that matter.
The Exile fought two of them, the HoT fought through over a dozen.
Well completely ignoring that the Wrath has done very comparable things,
I haven't said a word about the Wrath other than the fact that HoT is his peer.
as actually killing the most powerful member of the Dark Council
Don't buy it.
instead of somebody that was good enough to be on it,
As if that fact was relevant.
and unlike the HoT has never ONCE, and this is pointed out in game, been defeated,
So he never went head to head with his master, are you saying the same wouldn't happen to him?
how about some actual saber feats?
Pretty laughable thing to request when the Wrath's feats play by the same rules as the HoT's. I suppose we'd be left to rely on cutscene feats, which compromize of most notably blitzing the Sith Warriors that were beating on Bela Kwikis.
Because the HoT has absolute shit in that regard besides not dying.
You'd have to be a moron to suggest that the Knight won his battles via Force abuse. I've never thought of you as one. What are you even trying to pull off here?