Darth Nox runs the Gauntlet

Started by AncientPower5 pages

Yes and no, he has better TK displays certainly but he has never translated that TK supremacy into combative applications. Atleast not nearly to the degree suggested by Cartman.

So your argument is that somehow 'Killer is unable to bring epic TK against organic enemies as he is inorganic matter?

No, that TKing powerful Force Users and dominating them, let alone ragdolling them is another matter entirely given that the Force itself is resisting said application.

Starkiller's TK by that logic should dominate Vader and Sidious, hell even Shaak Ti. But he didn't because he couldn't.

Or that the characters in question were powerful enough to resist, which isn't proof that Nox is.

Kinda like how Revan is unable to telekinetically dominate non-Force sensitive fighters. Or how Vitiate is unable to TK the Hero's astromech.

If Vitiate can't TK a droid, can he TK Obi-Wan Kenobi? If Obi-Wan can TK droids, is he better than Vitiate?

Your position is self defeating. Maybe it's just better to concede the point?

Originally posted by AncientPower
Yes and no, he has better TK displays certainly but he has never translated that TK supremacy into combative applications. Atleast not nearly to the degree suggested by Cartman.

That's an insult to Cartman tbh

Originally posted by Emperordmb
That's an insult to Cartman tbh

An insult to Cartman would be comparing him to Darth Bane

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Or that the characters in question were powerful enough to resist, which isn't proof that Nox is.

Kinda like how Revan is unable to telekinetically dominate non-Force sensitive fighters. Or how Vitiate is unable to TK the Hero's astromech.

If Vitiate can't TK a droid, can he TK Obi-Wan Kenobi? If Obi-Wan can TK droids, is he better than Vitiate?

Your position is self defeating. Maybe it's just better to concede the point?

Vitiate disintegrated T3-M4 mother****er. estahuh

T3 wishes he was R2 tbh.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Oh no, Carthage the village imbecile, has compared me to someone else for actually respecting characters outside of the PT medium instead of trolling any support for them like an infant on Call of Duty.

*concedes*

Keep dickriding TOR Legend Junior

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Or that the characters in question were powerful enough to resist, which isn't proof that Nox is.

Kinda like how Revan is unable to telekinetically dominate non-Force sensitive fighters. Or how Vitiate is unable to TK the Hero's astromech.

If Vitiate can't TK a droid, can he TK Obi-Wan Kenobi? If Obi-Wan can TK droids, is he better than Vitiate?

Your position is self defeating. Maybe it's just better to concede the point?

Darth Nox is much more powerful than Shaak Ti, whom Starkiller failed to telekinetically demolish as is being suggested. My stance isn't self-defeating, you are merely misrepresenting it.

Very powerful Force users slaughtering other very powerful Force users just doesn't happen, at least only on very rare occasions.

My stance is that whilst Starkiller is more skilled and has stronger telekinesis. It's effects are marginalised by Nox's defenses, ability to regen and her spirits. On the other end, Nox has ways to escape close quarters and to attack him with magics that he can't counter.

Starkiller is more powerful over-all but as usual Nox can stack the hax deck.

Originally posted by carthage
Keep dickriding TOR Legend Junior

You are one of the (if not the) most aggressively biased and trollish 'debaters' in this section. You playing the bias card is about as hypocritical as it gets. However if you wish to continue destroying any respect you might otherwise garner by throwing petty insults around, be my guest.

To be fair, you played the bias card too and it's equally hypocritical. Stones, glass houses.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Darth Nox is much more powerful than Shaak Ti, whom Starkiller failed to telekinetically demolish as is being suggested. My stance isn't self-defeating, you are merely misrepresenting it.

Very powerful Force users slaughtering other very powerful Force users just doesn't happen, at least only on very rare occasions.

My stance is that whilst Starkiller is more skilled and has stronger telekinesis. It's effects are marginalised by Nox's defenses, ability to regen and her spirits. On the other end, Nox has ways to escape close quarters and to attack him with magics that he can't counter.

Starkiller is more powerful over-all but as usual Nox can stack the hax deck.

'killer struggled immensely with Shaak early on. That he was later able to handily defeat an even more powerful foe in the form of Vader indicates a substantial increase in ability between start and finish of the game.

He also struggled with a Shadow Guard.

Of course, but then again Vader wasn't giving his all in any of their battles or he would have won, as Sam Witwer explained. It's not a real victory nor an indication of equality let alone superiority.

Starkiller doesn't slaughter Kota, Paratus, Ti, Brood or Vader. He defeats them certainly but nothing like domination as claimed by Carthage. He isn't going to make Nox an exception to his track record here and he has to or Nox's advantages steal the win.

He's more powerful and he does indeed have greater TK but Nox has too many advantages and loopholes

Originally posted by AncientPower
Of course, but then again Vader wasn't giving his all in any of their battles or he would have won, as Sam Witwer explained. It's not a real victory nor an indication of equality let alone superiority.

When was this said? mmm

Originally posted by AncientPower
Starkiller doesn't slaughter Kota, Paratus, Ti, Brood or Vader. He defeats them certainly but nothing like domination as claimed by Carthage. He isn't going to make Nox an exception to his track record here and he has to or Nox's advantages steal the win.

He's more powerful and he does indeed have greater TK but Nox has too many advantages and loopholes

Problem is, as some often point out, perhaps the ability of such named individuals to stand against SWTOR characters'Killer is an endorsement of their own prowess and not an indictment of his own.

That has been floating around a long while now, I will have to check for the actual statement.

Giving Starkiller immense problems in a fight is not some sudden boost to their cred, Darth Nox has greater feats than any of them in the first place.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Giving Starkiller immense problems in a fight is not some sudden boost to their cred, Darth Nox has greater feats than any of them in the first place.

So giving an enormously powerful character problems in a fight isn't a "boost to cred" for the fighter in question? So you're telling me I won't be able to look through your any of your arguments and find you using similar logic for SWTOR/ancient characters?

It is not when said characters have their power pretty concretely set already. It is also quite irrelevant when Nox is their superior in basically everything but saber skill.

Originally posted by AncientPower
It is not when said characters have their power pretty concretely set already. It is also quite irrelevant when Nox is their superior in basically everything but saber skill.

I see. So if a character performs at a level that one personally finds to be exceeding their previously established abilities, one must disregard the conclusion that that character is in fact more powerful than previously thought?