Malgus/Nox/Wrath vs. ROTS Vader/Dooku/Maul

Originally posted by AncientPower
Eh, their strength is very much circumstantial, they can either be very good or great but the environment is the decider for any of their fights. They are what I like to call victims of their own style.

Wrath taking Dooku down is based on my observation that Wrath really isn't going to be dismissed easily with a kick/Push/Lightning stop-gap. Wrath is the type that the longer a duel goes on for the more powerful he gets. Dooku is bound to settle for the long haul and try to use an opening, which due to Wrath's endurance/stamina and inevitable rage dooms the Count.

This is the dude who would stalemate Skywalker regularly throughout the Clone Wars, and even stood up against Yoda pretty well -- the same Yoda who made Plo Koon, Depa Billaba, and Saesee Tiin collectively look pathetic.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Nox vs Maul is important for two reasons:

1.Maul is susceptible to sorcery and Nox is fantastic at using hax to win fights.

2.Soon as Maul is dead then Nox has free space to heal Malgus/Wrath or mentally assault Vader and Dooku, which would be fatally distracting.

/implying Nox would use sorcery to rekt Maul instead of lightning

/implying Nox would mentally assault Vader or Dooku instead of moar lightning

Spoiler:
Nox certainly could and probably even would use sorcery, but as for things we've actually seen I'd wager TK/lightning would do the trick.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
This is the dude who would stalemate Skywalker regularly throughout the Clone Wars, and even stood up against Yoda pretty well -- the same Yoda who made Plo Koon, Depa Billaba, and Saesee Tiin collectively look pathetic.

/implying Nox would use sorcery to rekt Maul instead of lightning

/implying Nox would mentally assault Vader or Dooku instead of moar lightning

Spoiler:
Nox certainly could and probably even would use sorcery, but as for things we've actually seen I'd wager TK/lightning would do the trick.

Skywalker only becomes the super swordsman by season six and then finally surpasses him by decapitating him. Dooku also pretty clearly got trashed according to sources against Yoda and could somewhat match him with a Vjun amp.

Lightning and TK feats are what the PT brigade desperately latch onto and wank to high heaven for their sole argument. Better to throw sorcery up in there and watch them ignore it's existence because they've got jack shit to counter it with.

As many sources saying Dooku got "trashed" and fled there is an equal amount of sources saying Dooku even "stalemated" him or held his ground.

Very true. Which is why it's an even more impressive showing of superiority if Nox can lightning/TK Maul or Dooku. And considering Nox was utterly unaffected by Thanaton's force whirlwind/FLS combo, and generally showed utter superiority over him in the force, I'd wager Nox could handle Maul via lightning or TK. With Dooku she'd probably have to use sorcery, but I still have Nox>Dooku on the basis of sheer overwhelming power.

Spoiler:
Why not just use force whirlwind on Maul then annihilate him with lightning? I mean, Thanaton managed to catch Nox in one

I tend to subscribe to the ones that don't place Dooku on the tier of an equal to Sidious.

Very true but reading logical fallacies is always fun.

Originally posted by AncientPower
I tend to subscribe to the ones that don't place Dooku on the tier of an equal to Sidious.

I take it not as Dooku is literally equal to Yoda, but holding your own against him is far more than the majority can boast.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Very true but reading logical fallacies is always fun.

Don't let Ant read this....

Spoiler:
Personally, despite the operations mechanics of SOR, I'd like to think the likes of Nox/HoT/Wrath could hold their own against Revan in a fight, potentially squeaking one or two wins here or there. Despite the mechanics of having a huge strike team of Marr/Shan/Beniko/Theron/etc, part of me wonders if this is to say Revan is literally >>> Nox, or if its just the nature of the game itself.

Even Revan said the protags couldn't face EVILRevan on their own, tbh.

Well yeah, an individual protag certainly has a slim chance of beating Revan alone. Just that based on what we know of their exploits, Revan being >>> is kind of ridiculous, tbh.

Well look at the strike team that canonically went.

Lana-who gets loltooled by Weaktiate while he's possessing pretty much an entire planet.
Theron- Enough said.
Shae Vizla- the aging Mandalorian that was in a trailer.
Darth Marr- the cancer patient
Satele Shan- the runner up a decade past relevancy
Jakarro, an insane Wookie who got captured by a few Selkath.

Not quite the group of planet busters themselves. Any two protags could take on these guys.

Well I mean Satele was amping the bastards too. And even still Revan's Spirit had to intervene mid fight to saev teh warhld.

and dont u dis marr u sick fvck

Revan was amped tbh.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Revan was amped tbh.

Ehh Ant debunked.

Eh Yavin IV >>>> Oricon & Satele's BM wasn't constant. But fair enough.

Ehhh the fact that Revan was able to get past the whole strike team and incapacitate Shan is kind of a showing that Revan >>> protag (which to me in context of lore is untrue, especially considering after the fact Revan says he's in awe of Nox's rise to power.)

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Well I mean Satele was amping the bastards too. And even still Revan's Spirit had to intervene mid fight to saev teh warhld.

and dont u dis marr u sick fvck

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Satele's awful, Revan had more mastery than us fresh faced Sith Lords/Jedi Masters, and I'm not. Marr is still a cancer patient.

Cool rationale, ngl. 👆

And implying Marr can be afflicted with any negative disease or medical condition is dissing him, yes.

Marr's cancer is so powerful it induces suicide tbh. Take that Slice.

Tbf Marr appeared to be (perhaps literally was) teleporting to Darth Lachris.

Yeah, in all honesty, Marr is a beast of a dude, possibly one of the top 5 individual sith in the Empire. He was put on the Council at a younger age than even Nox, after all, and retained his position for 40 + years.

Malgus, Jadus and if the hype is warranted perhaps Thanaton are his only rivals imo. Ignoring of course bigger guns.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Cool rationale, ngl. 👆

And implying Marr can be afflicted with any negative disease or medical condition is dissing him, yes.

We're all dying, bruh.