Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Are you completely unaware of what making kids write "There is no God but Allah."That is a violation of separation of church and state.
And quit being so sensitive.
They're taking notes, just like I did in religion class when we were learning about Jesus. What's the problem?
So it's only important to separate church and state when it's not related to Christians?
How am I being sensitive? You made a personal attack. A weak one, mind, you, but still, the point stands.
So is refusing to teach them evolutionary theory in favour of creationism and forcing them to pray each morning. Do you complain about that as well?
Also, they're not doing that in the context of teaching ''There is no God but Allah'' as an absolute truth, it's part of curriculum intended to have these kids understand what Islam is about. Do you think there should be no place for religious studies in schools at all?
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Honestly I get tired of debating american government and problems with people that don't even live here. Its like me trying to tell people in Africa how to solve their problems. Its pointless and mundane.
If you actually don't remember there might be an underlying issue causing your posting style. It would explain a lot though.
Originally posted by Slay
I hope you do remember that the title of this thread (which you've made) reads ''Introduction of Islam to [b]Europe and America''.If you actually don't remember there might be an underlying issue causing your posting style. It would explain a lot though. [/B]
Your a good troll, but it does not affect me.
Anyways, back to what we are saying, religious studies should not be allowed in public school.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Your a good troll, but it does not affect me.Anyways, back to what we are saying, religious studies should not be allowed in public school.
I can see an argument for that, particularly religious studies of one particular faith, although I think the knowledge of world religions, particularly in a historical context is an important area for children to learn about.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorialspeaking of clueless, you ever been to the deep south, TI? you realize this school is in tennessee, right? i live in western NC, just a few hours from there. you know how religious these states are, right? how dominant protestant christianity is in this region? how few muslims there are living here? i would bet you anything that you'd be hard pressed to find more than 3-4 non christian kids in a class of 30 in that school. i'll also bet you anything these kids are much more likely to grow up to dislike muslims/islam than they are to be muslim converts.
You are clueless.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
There is a difference between telling people about Islam, and making kids affirm there is no God but Allah.
So in your eyes if the children are then taught the basic tenants of Christianity (eg Christ is our savior), they're then being indoctrinated into Christianity?
Listen, I get why you're worried, there's one religion (Islam) entering an area which used to belong pretty much to one religion (Christianity). Things are going to clash, naturally, like different clans used to clash in the past. The thing is, we have to work together to make things clash less in order for all of us to live in a clash-free environment. Teaching kids about what Islam actually is will make them understand they have nothing to fear from their new classmates Muhammud and Yusuf and they can all continue their education in a chill, clash-free environment. Creating different clans in a classroom is the opposite from what we should want. The classroom is a mirror of society in this issue.
“I spoke with the teacher and the principal,” she said. “They are not going to learn any other religion, doctrines or creeds and they are not going back over this chapter. Even though they discuss Christianity a little bit during the Middle Ages, they are not ever going to have this basis for Judaism or Christianity later.”
Originally posted by Bardock42
Your premise is false, they do teach it.
“I spoke with the teacher and the principal,” she said. “They are not going to learn any other religion, doctrines or creeds and they are not going back over this chapter. Even though they discuss Christianity a little bit during the Middle Ages, they are not ever going to have this basis for Judaism or Christianity later.”