Introduction of Islam to Europe and America

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Are you completely unaware of what making kids write "There is no God but Allah."

That is a violation of separation of church and state.

And quit being so sensitive.

Originally posted by -Pr-
They're taking notes, just like I did in religion class when we were learning about Jesus. What's the problem?

So it's only important to separate church and state when it's not related to Christians?

How am I being sensitive? You made a personal attack. A weak one, mind, you, but still, the point stands.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Honestly I get tired of debating american government and problems with people that don't even live here. Its like me trying to tell people in Africa how to solve their problems. Its pointless and mundane.

shrug

I don't see your point.

An extremist Muslim will cut your head off.
A moderate Muslim wants an extremist to cut your head off.

LOL. Very true. That's what too many people still don't get.

There is nothing to fear folks, Islam is peaceful!

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
There is nothing to fear folks, Islam is peaceful!

Yes, indeed! The religion of peace! 😂

I wonder how many more heads will have to be chopped off or people set on fire before people come to their senses.

Every terrorist attack including 9/11 has been lone wolves! They all act alone, they are not organized, they don't spread terror!

I agree. People are seriously overstating the problem. It's not so bad!

The Koran does not teach Jihad!

http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Themes/jihad_passages.html

I thought u said the Korean does not teach jihad lol

Im being sarcastic and exposing the lies of the left.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I don't see your point.

You seemed to yesterday, when you were so adamant that they were trying to make kids convert to Islam.

Nice way of dodging the topic, though.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
There is nothing to fear folks, Islam is peaceful!

No less peaceful than Christianity.

Really?Without having to go back 800 or 900 years how many times have you seen Christians chop peoples head off in the name of Jesus Christ? Even people who aren't actually true Christians but just claim they are. I haven't seen any. You?

In more secular nations, no. But that's because they take a more secular, laid back approach to the Bible. Only a couple hundred years ago, we had Christians burning and drowning women for being allies of Satan.

But a recent massacre in the name of Christ is this little incident. And, as it so happens, it was in the Middle East, which is most certainly not a secular region.

LOL. You're bringing up that again? Really? I've already replied to this a while back when you posted it in the GDF. Is that one event all you have to support your ridiculous claims? I already said before that that looked like revenge killings for the death of their leader. It wasn't "in the name of Christ". Way to twist things. You remind me of Carver in the CBvF.

....and yeah, 200 years ago (pretty sure it was 300 or more) people were a lot more superstitious and crazy than they are today. Though Satan is most certainly real, no doubt about that. Can you post something recent that isn't that one event above (which isn't even what you make it out to be) you keep relying on to so-called "prove" your claim?

I'm looking for things that happened recently that are widespread on the same scale that ISIS' terrorists are doing. Not revenge killing or killings either. But, people claiming they're doing it for Christ, please.

I edited.

Islamic terrorists are killing people everyday, chopping their heads off, burying women and children alive,burning people alive, crucifying people, killing them with rocket launchers, drowning them, and all you can rely on is that single incident of a group killing for revenge because of their leader being killed to back up your silly claim?

Originally posted by Star428
LOL. You're bringing up that again? Really? I've already replied to this a while back when you posted it in the GDF. Is that one event all you have to support your ridiculous claims? I already said before that that looked like revenge killings for the death of their leader. It wasn't "in the name of Christ". Way to twist things. You remind me of Carver in the CBvF.

....and yeah, 200 years ago (pretty sure it was 300 or more) people were a lot more superstitious and crazy than they are today. Though Satan is most certainly real, no doubt about that. Can you post something recent that isn't that one event above (which isn't even what you make it out to be) you keep relying on to so-called "prove" your claim?

I'm looking for things that happened [b]recently that are widespread on the same scale that ISIS' terrorists are doing. Not revenge killing or killings either. But, people claiming they're doing it for Christ, please. [/B]

The massacre of Muslim elderly, women and children was done by Christian zealots who "wore crosses and called themselves Christians" that day, people that had absolutely nothing to do with the assassination. But, if you want something that's not considered a reprisal, you can have a look at this earlier massacre of Muslim civilians done by Christians, Christians that would be operating under the belief that what they were doing was justified by their beliefs and that God approved of their actions.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karantina_massacre

If you want something specifically said to be done in the name of Christ, there's Anders Breivik, who carried out his slaughter in the belief he was helping defend a Christian Europe from an onslaught from Muslims and Communists.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-balaka

More Christian terrorists from unstable regions

http://americanhumanist.org/HNN/details/2011-08-the-christian-crusader-foundations-of-anders-breivik

There's also a few Christian domestic terrorist groups in the U.S., such as these guys

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_God_(USA)

Not as awful as ISIS, but the U.S. is a much more stable and secure region then Africa and the Middle East, where the majority of these atrocities take place.

That is basically my point though. Christianity, for the most part, is focused in secular, rational-minded nations, countries that are secure and well-governed. The Middle East, the heart of Islam, hasn't been stable for hundreds of years. Of course you're going to see more massacres and atrocities in the region, and since the world today is so connected, that internal strife bleeds into other nations.

If North America was as war-torn as the Middle East, you'd be seeing the same kind of stuff on a daily basis, including religious terrorism.

Originally posted by Star428
Really?Without having to go back 800 or 900 years how many times have you seen Christians chop peoples head off in the name of Jesus Christ? Even people who aren't actually true Christians but just claim they are. I haven't seen any. You?

In Western Countries, no, it's not as big an issue as it used to be.

lol @ 800 years ago though. Christian Organisations and people have been violently abusive this century (the Magdalene laundries for a start), and of course, Final Answer's post about the massacre in Lebanon.

Christians by and large aren't a violent people. The same goes for Muslims, even taking in to account the rampant instability in Muslim countries. You're not going to find something on the same scale as ISIS, because the countries that are predominantly Christian/Catholic are by and large also the most modernised countries.

Saying that Islam is inherently violent is no different, imo, than saying Christianity is. The application of said religion just differs in different countries across different timelines.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You seemed to yesterday, when you were so adamant that they were trying to make kids convert to Islam.

Nice way of dodging the topic, though.

No less peaceful than Christianity.

Complete lie.