Is Superman beyond High Herald ?

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Is Superman beyond High Herald?

Is Superman beyond High Herald ?

Simple question.

Is Superman in the Herald tier or beyond ?

No, he's high meta.

Like most high heralds, he is high herald on average but can transcend at times.

Same is true of SS, Thor, Hulk, Hal, etc.

when he wants to be.

On average he is Trans, unrestrained he is skyfather. At maximum power he is multi-megaversal abstract

Originally posted by Board Walker
multi-megaversal abstract

Glad to know you're being so exact in power level descriptors.

👆

My god this superman! So strong!

Hes a High Herald, he has no cosmic powers or any esoteric abilities but he's definitely the tops of the High Herald tier though

Here Morpheus, the embodiment of Dream challenges the Duke of Hell to the Oldest game.

Originally posted by galactusischere

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Keep in mind what actually won this game. Hope defeats Anti-life, and cements itself as the most powerful abstract concept in DC.[and perhaps literature itself which is what Gaiman was really going for, of course.] Every story of heros spins out of this very basic concept. [This is a concept that DC utilizes heavily. It's why Superman's is the 'greatest story' and most important according Over-Monitor's probes, why all creation 'comes from Superman', as Alexander saw when he was pulling apart creation.]

http://i.imgur.com/BGVNa4E.jpg?1

Here; You learn that S stands for hope, and through the course of his origin story in Birthright, that Superman is the personification of this idea.

To farther cement this, lets recap what happened in Final Crisis.
Darkseid planned the entire several years of events, across all of the multiverse, chess-mastering everyone, to set everyone onto a path where he would eventually have a meeting with The Source [the source of all that exists!], and could obtain ultimate power. But in achieving ultimate power, his body was damaged beyond repair, and he fell from the higher dimension to inhabit a new body on Earth.

He did all of this just to obtain to Anti-Life equation, so he could destroy everything Superman loves, and turn reality against him and drag reality screaming to hell with him in his new singularity in the void, where he is the only god they would know.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/68345/3634532-2757082-tumblr_mc4nwkok3l1qhwhzzo1_1280.jpg

All of the other crazy shit he did aside-
Who defeated Anti-Life in this story?

Hope did.

Proving again to be the most powerful concept, just as Sandman said it was.

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/6/60/Final_Crisis_7_Superman_shatters_Darkseid.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/640?cb=20140118205615

He outsmarted and took on the Source of all things, to achieve ultimate power, destroyed and took over all reality, had all of time-space on the brink...

....and still lost to Superman.

Superman is DC's most powerful abstract.

The living embodiment of the concept of Hope.

To top this off, he is the figurehead and leader to a pantheon of superheros and villains more potent than any other pantheon in creation.

^ That would mean shit all against someone like Odin

If we break down a list who he's beaten, he walks all over the upper tiers of creation like his bitches, but because he has a rather closed powerset, people assume he's not as powerful.

He's defeated several concept/abstract beings. Many gods and demons. He's changed the course of time. Punked Death itself.

Even when brought before the Quintessence to be charged [Shazam, Ganthet, Stranger, Zues and Highfather], he told the Entropy Aegis to lower the shield, because would be perfectly fine defending himself against the group of them. An entire group of skyfathers.

He did this directly after 3 sweeping consecutive arcs stories of defeating abstract beings.

The difference between a High Herald and Superman, is that High Herald is the bottom end of Superman's power, a level he purposely holds himself at so he can pretend to run around on Earth and do Earth things and inspire people.

But this is not who he is.
And many of the characters in DC know this as well.

You must be satellite high

Originally posted by psycho gundam
You must be satellite high
Not at all.

You sippin' a lil somethin'?

Originally posted by Juntai
Here Morpheus, the embodiment of Dream challenges the Duke of Hell to the Oldest game.

Keep in mind what actually won this game. Hope defeats Anti-life, and cements itself as the most powerful abstract concept in DC.[and perhaps literature itself which is what Gaiman was really going for, of course.] Every story of heros spins out of this very basic concept. [This is a concept that DC utilizes heavily. It's why Superman's is the 'greatest story' and most important according Over-Monitor's probes, why all creation 'comes from Superman', as Alexander saw when he was pulling apart creation.]

http://i.imgur.com/BGVNa4E.jpg?1

Here; You learn that S stands for hope, and through the course of his origin story in Birthright, that Superman is the personification of this idea.

To farther cement this, lets recap what happened in Final Crisis.
Darkseid planned the entire several years of events, across all of the multiverse, chess-mastering everyone, to set everyone onto a path where he would eventually have a meeting with The Source [the source of all that exists!], and could obtain ultimate power. But in achieving ultimate power, his body was damaged beyond repair, and he fell from the higher dimension to inhabit a new body on Earth.

He did all of this just to obtain to Anti-Life equation, so he could destroy everything Superman loves, and turn reality against him and drag reality screaming to hell with him in his new singularity in the void, where he is the only god they would know.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/68345/3634532-2757082-tumblr_mc4nwkok3l1qhwhzzo1_1280.jpg

All of the other crazy shit he did aside-
Who defeated Anti-Life in this story?

Hope did.

Proving again to be the most powerful concept, just as Sandman said it was.

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/6/60/Final_Crisis_7_Superman_shatters_Darkseid.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/640?cb=20140118205615

He outsmarted and took on the Source of all things, to achieve ultimate power, destroyed and took over all reality, had all of time-space on the brink...

....and still lost to Superman.

Superman is DC's most powerful abstract.

The living embodiment of the concept of Hope.

To top this off, he is the figurehead and leader to a pantheon of superheros and villains more potent than any other pantheon in creation.

👆

On top of that he is the source and origin of the Superhero genre as it is today. His infuelnce is so big that he has "Avatars" or Copies of himself in almost every other fictional comic verse.

Originally posted by Juntai
If we break down a list who he's beaten, he walks all over the upper tiers of creation like his bitches, but because he has a rather closed powerset, people assume he's not as powerful.

He's defeated several concept/abstract beings. Many gods and demons. He's changed the course of time. Punked Death itself.

Even when brought before the Quintessence to be charged [Shazam, Ganthet, Stranger, Zues and Highfather], he told the Entropy Aegis to lower the shield, because would be perfectly fine defending himself against the group of them. An entire group of skyfathers.

He did this directly after 3 sweeping consecutive arcs stories of defeating abstract beings.

The difference between a High Herald and Superman, is that High Herald is the bottom end of Superman's power, a level he purposely holds himself at so he can pretend to run around on Earth and do Earth things and inspire people.

But this is not who he is.
And many of the characters in DC know this as well.

I have said it for years, Superman is the highest level of abstract concept given tangible form.

In essence Superman is something that no one else is, he is an abstract, a herald, a skyfather, a trans all simultaneously because he freely chooses to be what he wants to be at any given time (subconsciously).

However, at the highest level of unrestrained power Superman is a multi (multiple companies) - megaversal abstract.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
No, he's high meta.

I know you voted for me 😮

Yeah, I consider him trans level.

Originally posted by Facee
I know you voted for me 😮
I did too.

Because the poll is meaningless.

And I 😍 you.

Superman ACTUALLY writes his own comics.

True story.

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