Shang Chi vs. Cassandra Cain

Cassie wins.

Originally posted by deathslash
low caliber and low velocity? The guy was defecting machine gun fire with his bracelets like he was wonder woman.

getting hit with a dumbell to the face is know where near as impressive as being sent into the sky with a punch and landing several blocks away and still being conscious. Was super girl going all out like Heroim was when he tried to kill Shang Chi? Bro, stalemating batman isn't even half as impressive as dropping gorgon to his knees, or stalemate Iron Fist, or stalemating spider-man, or stalemating wolverine.

Get out.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Cassie wins.
Stalemating Batman isn't half as impressive? Getting hit by Deathstroke isn't impressive?

Get out.

Originally posted by deathslash
definitely not as impressive as stalemating spider-man or Iron Fist. Surviving a dumbell to the face from Deathstroke is more impressive that blocking a punch from Heroim the Shamed and surviving a punch that sends you into earth's atmosphere and still being conscious when you land?

Nearly every Street leveler stalemates Spidey when he is usually holding back. Even then he has looked far better than Shang.

Taking a hit from Supergirl is far better than getting punched by Hiroim.

It's also better than getting wrecked by Gorgon while specifically amped by Stark tech.

Or Old Cap oneshotting two Shang clones at the same time.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Stalemating Batman is every bit as impressive as stalemating Iron Fist. You're taking it like Rand is Karate Kid or something. Even Logan has outskilled him.

Nearly every Street leveler stalemates Spidey when he is usually holding back. Even then he has looked far better than Shang.

Taking a hit from Supergirl is far better than getting punched by Hiroim.

It's also better than getting wrecked by Gorgon while specifically amped by Stark tech.

Or Old Cap oneshotting two Shang clones at the same time.

Was Supergirl going all out like Heroim was?

If by "getting wrecked" you mean putting gorgon on his knees (something that even a highly prepped elekta's and wolverine couldn't manage to do). Gorgon has also kicked the crap out of speedsters and super strong bruisers (sometimes in the same fight).

Clones? As in not the real thing? You count that against Shang?

Originally posted by deathslash
rand already handed Logan his own ass in a real fight and in that sparring session, rand specifically says that he was using about half as much of his skill as Logan was.

Was Supergirl going all out like Heroim was?

If by "getting wrecked" you mean putting gorgon on his knees (something that even a highly prepped elekta's and wolverine couldn't manage to do). Gorgon has also kicked the crap out of speedsters and super strong bruisers (sometimes in the same fight).

Clones? As in not the real thing? You count that against Shang?

Yes, she was trying to take Cassie out. Are you trying to say Hiroim is as strong as Kara?

As soon as Gorgon got serious, he ****ing wrecked Shang and threw him away like trash. Shang was amped to boot.

They are perfectly equal to Shang in skills and strength. So yeah, I do.

Originally posted by deathslash
rand already handed Logan his own ass in a real fight and in that sparring session, rand specifically says that he was using about half as much of his skill as Logan was.

Was Supergirl going all out like Heroim was?

If by "getting wrecked" you mean putting gorgon on his knees (something that even a highly prepped elekta's and wolverine couldn't manage to do). Gorgon has also kicked the crap out of speedsters and super strong bruisers (sometimes in the same fight).

Clones? As in not the real thing? You count that against Shang?

Batman stalemated 3boot Karate Kid. Karate Kid>>>Shang-Chi.

Shang Chi wins. He's currently far too powerful for her and almost any street.

Good to see you posting again bro.

Originally posted by Zack M
Batman stalemated 3boot Karate Kid. Karate Kid>>>Shang-Chi.

Originally posted by deathslash
does the concept of PIS and not using ABC logic still escape you? Also, wasn't KK amnesiac and dying at the time?

I said 3boot Val, not classic Val.

CC returns in Batman Eternal! Can't wait.

http://comicbook.com/2015/07/10/cassandra-cain-returns-in-batman-and-robin-eternal-at-comic-con/

^Ur late brah...

And Shang wins. He's closer to IF now than Cass.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
^Ur late brah...

And Shang wins. He's closer to IF now than Cass.

In chi based powers, sure, but overall, I think they're close in overall stats.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Logan has handed Rand his ass twice at this point. Half his skills? Never knew Rand was a whiner too, "waah, I wasn't using my full skills".

Yes, she was trying to take Cassie out. Are you trying to say Hiroim is as strong as Kara?

As soon as Gorgon got serious, he ****ing wrecked Shang and threw him away like trash. Shang was amped to boot.

They are perfectly equal to Shang in skills and strength. So yeah, I do.

Take her out (as in kill) or take her out (as in knock out)? You have to specify which one it is because we both know that if she was just trying to knock her out, the feat isn't nearly as impressive as Shang blocking a bloodlusted Heroim's punch.

His skills? Yes. His intelligence though?

Spiderman has FTL reaction times, and trans level spot durability.

If batman ia serious he wins without an issue.

With that said due to Cassandra's closness to the concept that is batman she wins from power transition.

Originally posted by deathslash
does the concept of PIS and not using ABC logic still escape you? Also, wasn't KK amnesiac and dying at the time?

Originally posted by RadZoa
Lol PIS, the term people use to discredit something they dislike, GTFO with that crap.

It's fine if people think Cass wins, but the Supergirl "fight" isn't applicable. Batgirl had prep: she weakened Supergirl with red sun radiation, used red sun enhanced swords, obscured Kara's vision with diamond dust, and Kara was distracted because her boy toy was tortured and hanging from the ceiling. The only notable part was surviving the drop kick, but Kara was weakened and simply wanted to talk.

This isn't Cassandra with one sided prep vs Shang. It's a straight up fight.

Kara wrecks both of them though, you silly nannies.

Kind of like how Shang had prep against Gorgon yet Lord behold it was brought up here.

Originally posted by deathslash
he's always been powerful. It's just that some people refuse to admit it.

Originally posted by deathslash
low caliber and low velocity? The guy was defecting machine gun fire with his bracelets like he was wonder woman.

Scans? Because I looked and I've only seen him deflect a bullet from one shooter and with a hand gun

Originally posted by deathslash
getting hit with a dumbell to the face is know where near as impressive as being sent into the sky with a punch and landing several blocks away and still being conscious. Was super girl going all out like Heroim was when he tried to kill Shang Chi? Bro, stalemating batman isn't even half as impressive as dropping gorgon to his knees, or stalemate Iron Fist, or stalemating spider-man, or stalemating wolverine.

Not really, Cass got hit in the template with a solid piece of metal from a guy who can shatter missile proof glass and smack around Donna Troy, and where is the evidence that Heroim was going all out?

Stalemating Batman is a better feat than dropping Gorgon with prep and then getting easily beaten by him, and unless Iron Fist, Wolverine and Spiderman were going all out it's moot and Wolverine has beaten Shang quite handedly before.