yeah man there is ALOT of free porn out there and some sites actually have competitions and what not for ametures to upload their videos
but back to the topic at hand, the access people have with the internet is alot and you will often see advertisements for a range of things both seually explicit and other
Well you can never shelter your child completely from certain things and the more you try the more they will rebel against that.
Truth is if you raise your kid right then porn won't really cause them any harm. If it bothers someone though then like I said there are ways to control it. There are methods to do this for free, but if it really bothers someone there are also programs they can purchase that are more difficult to circumvent.
"No and no" to succinctly answer the OP's questions. I think anyone convinced otherwise is being atrociously paranoid. Censorship can't prevent dumb parenting, which is the actual cause of any perceived problems for which porn is sometimes used as a scapegoat. But parental controls exist for plenty of things, and also exist in the world of common sense and knowing what your children are being exposed to and putting it in the proper perspective when they are ready for it.
Originally posted by Surtur
Ok just already 5 seconds into the video you can't take the guy seriously. He also says things that make no sense. Men and told what not to do, but not told what they "should" do? That seems false to me.Growing up I was always told what a kid should and shouldn't be doing. Later on it was "if you are a man you must get a job and then get a wife and then have kids and do it in that order preferably".
He is a teacher and if you have a problem understanding him, it is your problem and not his.
Regards
DL
Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
then how do you judge bad parenting for its values on porn?"you must never watch porn!" or something like that is obviously not going to work.
You're looking for some measurable variable, but it's a flawed premise. There isn't a "good parent formula" but it's obvious when you see it.
Talk to any teacher, for example. I was one briefly, so I can speak from some experience. Literally the only thing you need to ensure that a kid is going to do alright in school is that the parents care about their child's success. If they're invested, the kid is fine. If not...that's when you get problems. It sounds simplistic, but it holds alarmingly true. Of course it won't ensure straight A's or a life without problems, but I can guarantee you that 99% of "problem" kids or those failing classes come from an apathetic home.
So it's the same type of thing. An investment in your child's well-being, and actions that reflect that investment, takes care of most problems.
I wouldn't actually count (viewing) porn as a major source of corruption, either, but that's a different matter. In terms of its ability to negatively influence children, there are far bigger fish to fry. I won't use a flawed "I watched porn in HS argument and I turned out fine" argument, because that assumes any kind of influence in the first place. Nearly all HS-age boys I knew saw porn at some point, and you can go back to nudey mags pre-internet for the same. And its affect on us as people was basically null.
Originally posted by Digi
"No and no" to succinctly answer the OP's questions. I think anyone convinced otherwise is being atrociously paranoid. Censorship can't prevent dumb parenting, which is the actual cause of any perceived problems for which porn is sometimes used as a scapegoat. But parental controls exist for plenty of things, and also exist in the world of common sense and knowing what your children are being exposed to and putting it in the proper perspective when they are ready for it.
This has nothing to do with poor parenting as few of us parent at all. We let schools, the media and peers do it for us.
Regards
DL
Originally posted by Greatest I am
This has nothing to do with poor parenting as few of us parent at all. We let schools, the media and peers do it for us.Regards
DL
I'm not sure you realize this, but you kind of just made my point for me.
Originally posted by Digi
An investment in your child's well-being, and actions that reflect that investment, takes care of most problems.
Originally posted by Digi
I'm not sure you realize this, but you kind of just made my point for me.
Indeed and I also showed why censorship is required as parents do not do parenting and when they do, they do a poor job.
If society does not recognize this, then our next generation will be screwed.
Regards
DL
Net porn isn't degrading society or ruining kids at all. Every now and then I watch it still, but not addicted to it. Kids in HS are going to hear about what "did you hear what Johnny did to Jane last night?" Where did you think they got the idea to perform what ever act they did. My ex-fiancé and I did some of things on those sites. She and I experimented a lot. Anyway, I see no problem with net porn.
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Indeed and I also showed why censorship is required as parents do not do parenting and when they do, they do a poor job.If society does not recognize this, then our next generation will be screwed.
Regards
DL
I think you're entirely wrong. Porn is no more responsible for the world's ills than hundreds of demonstrably, provably worse problems. And cases where it is responsible are statistically marginal, amidst a society that, by any measurable variable, is safer and more moral than past generations, not to mention more sexually liberated.
Originally posted by Greatest I am
He is a teacher and if you have a problem understanding him, it is your problem and not his.Regards
DL
Him being a teacher makes it worse because some of the shit he says doesn't make any sense. Men are only told what not to do, but not what to do? Has that been YOUR experience growing up? Because it sure as heck was not mine. It was a mixture of both really: don't do this, do that, etc. etc. Maybe it was because I was sent to a Catholic school, but we were told all the time what we should and should not be doing and I don't mean that in the sense of "don't talk during class".
Also isn't it a teachers job to make sure he teaches in a way everyone can understand? Isn't that the point of a teacher? You just had me flash back to junior year in my Trig class. Math teacher was explaining some shit and asks how many understood. 4 kids out of like 25 raise their hands to show they understood. What happens? Dude moved on to the next chapter in the Trig book and began teaching something else. Then later in the term he acts surprised a bunch of people failed the test. I hated that guy, he wouldn't let you leave to go to the bathroom unless you agreed to let him give you a 1 hour detention. I almost pissed my pants waiting for class to end because I wasn't going to give the prick the satisfaction.
Originally posted by Greatest I amStop harming your children then.
You guys are so into yourselves that you cannot view the material I gave objectively.This is not about you.
It is about our children and the harm we do to them.
Regards
DL
I agree with Digi when he stated that apathetic parents cause most of children's problems. I protect my children from things that aren't appropriate for them, and spend a lot of my free time interacting with them in areas from schoolwork, to playtime, and chores.
My son is twelve and still asks me to read him bedtime stories because I've been doing it consistently almost every night since he was five. I started that for two reasons, one for some bonding time, and two because he was having difficulties with sight words. Seven years later he's (I'm) buying books like Stan Lee's 'Zodiac' and opting to read for entertainment.
He owns no cell phone and doesn't ask for one either but I don't use one so he has me as an example there. Our conversations aren't interrupted constantly by texts and calls that can't be ignored. He has a lot of what most kids are severely deprived of... His daddy's undivided attention.
He's aware of porn and tells me that he's heeded my advice to avoid porn until he's mature enough to not consider himself a kid in any way. He enjoys being a kid and I simply explained to him that porn is extreme adult education/entertainment that removes childhood innocence and replaces it with adult thoughts that can distort a child's perception about what sex really is.
Parenting is the most important influence in a child's life. Porn is just one of the million things that can distract adults from doing that parenting. More destructive than porn, is the cell phone fixation that I see so many people teaching their young children.
Originally posted by Digi
You're looking for some measurable variable, but it's a flawed premise. There isn't a "good parent formula" but it's obvious when you see it.Talk to any teacher, for example. I was one briefly, so I can speak from some experience. Literally the only thing you need to ensure that a kid is going to do alright in school is that the parents care about their child's success. If they're invested, the kid is fine. If not...that's when you get problems. It sounds simplistic, but it holds alarmingly true. Of course it won't ensure straight A's or a life without problems, but I can guarantee you that 99% of "problem" kids or those failing classes come from an apathetic home.
So it's the same type of thing. An investment in your child's well-being, and actions that reflect that investment, takes care of most problems.
I wouldn't actually count (viewing) porn as a major source of corruption, either, but that's a different matter. In terms of its ability to negatively influence children, there are far bigger fish to fry. I won't use a flawed "I watched porn in HS argument and I turned out fine" argument, because that assumes any kind of influence in the first place. Nearly all HS-age boys I knew saw porn at some point, and you can go back to nudey mags pre-internet for the same. And its affect on us as people was basically null.
yeah i guess so, good point with the well being example. but you as people would have been effected in some ways. perhaps not as a majority but there are those reading the nudie mag columns and what not who are probably given some bullshit ideals on how things work in a social sense between the intamacy of boys and girls... or even gay/ lesbians relationships (this is Back then thou)