Immortal Emperor Valkorion vs. Darth Plagueis the Wise

Started by DarthAnt669 pages

Doubt it. He's not blitzing (or winning by sheer virtue of being fast) though regardless.

Plagueis is faster =/= Plagueis can speed blitz.

This is a ridiculous claim tbh.

Still, Plagueis blitzes them.

Nice to see you concede.

Um.... the Wise One blitzes. Haven't seen anything that puts Valkorion in Plagueis's speed-tier.

That's not really how it works.

So let me get this straight, just so I can understand the logical fallacies being put forth here:

Darth Plagueis is faster than Darth Venamis, therefore Plagueis speedblitzes Revan and even Valkorion tier characters. Despite them both being capable of an exchange of numerous Force attacks in a few seconds.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Despite them both being capable of an exchange of numerous Force attacks in a few seconds.

Dude, I can exchange numerous Force attacks in a few seconds. That's hardly impressive.

/watches Stigma slowly decay from what he once was

Yeah, still Valkorion.

Just for the record, they did all of this (and more) in 'just a few seconds':

As Meetra and Scourge battled the Guard, Revan charged toward the Emperor. His opponent stood perfectly still, focusing and channeling his power. At the last possible instant, the Emperor unleashed a wave of energy that swept Revan off his feet and sent him flying backward.

Revan twisted in midair so that he was able to roll with the impact when he landed. He quickly sprang back to his feet and advanced again, moving more slowly this time. The Emperor stood in the exact same position as before; it was as if he hadn't even moved. Revan began to sense the oppressive presence of the dark side weighing down on him. The Emperor was trying to crush his will: to dominate and enslave his mind as he had before. This time, however, Revan was ready.

Instead of charging forward, he opened himself up to the Force, letting both the light and the dark side flow through him like twin rushing rivers. But instead of focusing or channeling the Force, he released it in its purest form.

There was brilliant flash as the air between the two combatants lit up. The energy unleashed was powerful enough to send Revan staggering. The Emperor, unprepared and with much of his strength diverted to his effort to dominate Revan's mind, was sent flying backward.

He landed in a heap on the floor and Revan raced toward him. The Emperor rolled over, lifted himself up on one knee, and his hands flew forward as he hurtled a bolt if dark side lightning at his enemy.

Revan intercepted the bolt with the blade of his lightsaber, though the impact stopped his charge dead in its tracks.

The Emperor unleashed three more bolts in quick succession. Revan batted the first aside with his lightsaber, ducked the second, then deflected the third back in the direction of its source.

It struck the Emperor in its chest, sending him sliding several meters back on the floor. For the first time the Sith's emotionless veneer cracked as he let out a primal hiss of hate.The sound sent shivers down Revan's spine."

-Credit to DarthAnt66

Don't most duels happen in "just a few seconds?" And a lot of that is pretty flowery text.

No they most certainly don't. Whilst that is vintage Drew Karpyshyn, that is a fairly long series of exchanges.

I may have to check Scourge's precise POV though as that might have happrned before.

Either way not a chance Plagueis is blitzing either of them.

Most duels don't last that long. Only text description demands that. That and drama.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
[B]/watches Stigma slowly decay from what he once was[/B]
I was a rotten corpse back then.

Plagueis blitzes Valky. Deal with it. 😎

Given that Revan and Vitiate waged an entire battle in three or four (definition of 'a few'😉 seconds. Which included:

1.Revan charges.
2.Vitiate knocks him back with a Force wave.
3.Revan charges at a slower pace.
4.Vitiate attacks him with his will.
5.Revan counters with Force Purity knocking Vitiate over.
6.Revan charges Vitiate down.
7.Vitiate rolls over and blasts Revan with energy.
8.Revan intercepts it with his blade.
9.Vitiate fires three more in succession.
10.Revan deflects the third into Vitiate's chest.
11.Vitiate gets pissed, stands up and then summons his power.
12.Vitiate unleashes an FLS which Revan attempts to Tutaminis.
13.Revan holds this off.

I will request that you prove Plagueis can move faster than doing all of that in 3 or 4 seconds let alone blitz past it. Or I must assume you are trolling and/or have no argument and accept your unspoken concession on the matter.

Valkorion wins.

What? That took longer than four seconds.

That isn't what is stated, in reality it was only just a few seconds. Unless I have the POV incorrect, which I doubt.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
That's not really how it works.

Unless it's a mental contest amirite

Also, 12 /13 were the only ones that happened 'in a few seconds' lawl.

Originally posted by AncientPower
That isn't what is stated, in reality it was only just a few seconds. Unless I have the POV incorrect, which I doubt.

Unless Revan can move at twice the speed of sound, which he can't, that took longer than 4 seconds.

Stigma is cleaning house with his brilliant arguments. 👆