The Incredible Hulk Vs DCnu Wonder Woman

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Re: Re: Re: The Incredible Hulk Vs DCnu Wonder Woman

Originally posted by carver9
Professor Hulk is a Classic version of the Hulk.
Mindless Hulk is a Classic version of the Hulk.
Merged Hulk.
Grey Hulk.

SMH.

So Prof didn;t really go around saying 'Hulk Smash'.

Nor did Grey.

Mindless Hulk - did he speak much?

Merged Hulk? As in, the intelligence of Banner? So, no real 'Hulk, Smash!'?

SMH indeed.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Wouldn't be the first time when Marvel had one of their characters being in 2 places at once.

Like Wolverine meeting Skaar for the first time TWICE in the same comic release day.


Agreed, especially these days. In this case though his Doombots corroborated it.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
And? We were never told it was the real Doom in the first place it doesnt really matter how long apart the issues were, Hulk may have been travelling the world, Doom was travelling DIMENSIONS at the time of this run. Hulk goes to Latveria several times during this series and each time we apparenly see the same "Doom".

Well his eyes were clearly open so he was conscious, you can't see any detail in the last panel to state he passed out. In the issue previous, Hulk walks into Castle Doom and swats the Doom inside away like he isn't a threat.

I think you need to refresh your memory with that scene, he intentionally allowed them to believe they ko'd him so he could speak to Thundra and recruit her. He even tells her he was awake the whole time.


Not sure what's hard to understand here. If Doom was shown on panel, you would have to prove that it was not the real one. Unless otherwise stated as was the case in issue #14, that is the only route you can go. With your logic, one can say that about every character.
"Oh that's not Loki. It didn't state it was the real one... Because you know, he uses illusions and he's a shape changer." 🙁

Eyes were open. Body language says it all. No point in him to lay there like a rag doll for a prolonged period of time. It was very telling.
And he attacked Doom to steal Banner's body away. He immediately flew the coop after his final attack.

You may be right. But my point stays the same. She Hulk had him on the ropes at one point.

Not sure what's hard to understand here. If Doom was shown on panel, you would have to prove that it was not the real one. Unless otherwise stated as was the case in issue #14, that is the only route you can go. With your logic, one can say that about every character.
"Oh that's not Loki. It didn't state it was the real one... Because you know, he uses illusions and he's a shape changer."

Even with a character that has a penchant for using dupes, your statement makes sense. Well done.

Originally posted by riv6672
Even with a character that has a penchant for using dupes, your statement makes sense. Well done.

Or, we get used to asking whether or not characters that are well known for these sorts of things are the real deal, or if it's a stand in. Darkseid gets away with it all of the time.

Yes but DS actually has that excuse.

Same as with primary adamantium.

Originally posted by Stoic
Or, we get used to asking whether or not characters that are well known for these sorts of things are the real deal, or if it's a stand in. Darkseid gets away with it all of the time.

Nah, real deal until proven otherwise. Both as a fan just reading the books, and definitely in a board setting.
There are enough nits picked as it is.

Which is baffling because it would only look worse for Hulk if it were a Doombot.

Until someone goes back and retroactively does it, though, we cant really say it.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Not sure what's hard to understand here. If Doom was shown on panel, you would have to prove that it was not the real one. Unless otherwise stated as was the case in issue #14, that is the only route you can go. With your logic, one can say that about every character.
"Oh that's not Loki. It didn't state it was the real one... Because you know, he uses illusions and he's a shape changer." 🙁

Eyes were open. Body language says it all. No point in him to lay there like a rag doll for a prolonged period of time. It was very telling.
And he attacked Doom to steal Banner's body away. He immediately flew the coop after his final attack.

You may be right. But my point stays the same. She Hulk had him on the ropes at one point.


So your response is basically phuck what the comic says, phuck the publication dates it was Doom, well just because. I did give you the proof, it was stated their true master Doom was off-world but you chose to ignore it. If we see what appears to be Loki, but is later revealed to have been a mirage then no it wasn't the real Loki. So if it was the real Doom according to you, when did the Doombot take his place?

Doombot was having a conversation with Hulks unconscious body? Makes sense 😂

Reading the story as a whole and not just out of context scans, it was clearly a verbal ownage. Hulk felt guilty over what happened to Banner and tried to push the blame onto Doom but it backfired and Doom made him realise that it was all his own doing because of separating them in the first place. Last panel of Hulk rammed that point home, Hulk accepting it was his fault.
In issue #6 Hulk swatted him aside like he was nothing, if he could've stopped Hulk he would have. Doom attacked and tried to stop him but was punched out of his own house for his troubles. You really think Vic would just allow Hulk to waltz into his house, strike him a couple of times and steal his possessions (Banner being property of Dooms was the deal Hulk agreed to) without retaliation? You must know nothing of Doom.

If Rulk allowed them to capture him and pretended to be ko'd then it voids everything that happened, he was obviously tricking the women including She-Hulk into thinking they were actually hurting him. His showings in that era were mostly trans.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
So your response is basically phuck what the comic says, phuck the publication dates it was Doom, well just because. I did give you the proof, it was stated their true master Doom was off-world but you chose to ignore it. If we see what appears to be Loki, but is later revealed to have been a mirage then no it wasn't the real Loki. So if it was the real Doom according to you, when did the Doombot take his place?

Doombot was having a conversation with Hulks unconscious body? Makes sense 😂

Reading the story as a whole and not just out of context scans, it was clearly a verbal ownage. Hulk felt guilty over what happened to Banner and tried to push the blame onto Doom but it backfired and Doom made him realise that it was all his own doing because of separating them in the first place. Last panel of Hulk rammed that point home, Hulk accepting it was his fault.
In issue #6 Hulk swatted him aside like he was nothing, if he could've stopped Hulk he would have. Doom attacked and tried to stop him but was punched out of his own house for his troubles. You really think Vic would just allow Hulk to waltz into his house, strike him a couple of times and steal his possessions (Banner being property of Dooms was the deal Hulk agreed to) without retaliation? You must know nothing of Doom.

If Rulk allowed them to capture him and pretended to be ko'd then it voids everything that happened, he was obviously tricking the women including She-Hulk into thinking they were actually hurting him. His showings in that era were mostly trans.


Wtf are you going on about?
What proof? Your proof is in issue #14 where it specifically stated Doom was off-world. That's seven months worth of real world publication time and probably even longer in story time considering he travelled to so many different locales and accomplished so much. Unless I'm missing something, you would need to provide proof that Doom from issue #7 was a stand in.

Furthermore the way "Doombot" floored Hulk only reinforces the fact that it was the "real Doom". As a Hulk fan, do you want to accept that a Doombot punked the Hulk? I mean I just don't get the logic here.

And that is false btw in regards to them having a conversation when Hulk was put down. Only Doom was pontificating as Hulk seemed to "fade" into la la land. Last time I checked, a conversation is a two way street.

Lol.. Hulk came in attacked Doom twice and the second attack forcing him outside his castle. It was obvious Hulk was looking to get in and out quickly as evidenced by the fact that he quickly fled while taking banner with him. And it was obvious that immediate retaliation from Doom was not imperative.

Not that it matters, as OP wants classic Hulk here...just pointing this out.

But if Doombots floor Hulk....

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Wtf are you going on about?
What proof? Your proof is in issue #14 where it specifically stated Doom was off-world. That's seven months worth of real world publication time and probably even longer in story time considering he travelled to so many different locales and accomplished so much. Unless I'm missing something, you would need to provide proof that Doom from issue #7 was a stand in.

Furthermore the way "Doombot" floored Hulk only reinforces the fact that it was the "real Doom". As a Hulk fan, do you want to accept that a Doombot punked the Hulk? I mean I just don't get the logic here.

And that is false btw in regards to them having a conversation when Hulk was put down. Only Doom was pontificating as Hulk seemed to "fade" into la la land. Last time I checked, a conversation is a two way street.

Lol.. Hulk came in attacked Doom twice and the second attack forcing him outside his castle. It was obvious Hulk was looking to get in and out quickly as evidenced by the fact that he quickly fled while taking banner with him. And it was obvious that immediate retaliation from Doom was not imperative.

WTF. At some point people need to realize when they are wrong. Doom was obviously talking to Hulk...even told him that if he came back, things would be much worse. Why would he say all of this to a knocked out body? Stop Celey. Hulk eyes was opened looking right up at Doom and you are going to say he went into LA LA land. WTF. Nothing like that was shown.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
So your response is basically phuck what the comic says, phuck the publication dates it was Doom, well just because. I did give you the proof, it was stated their true master Doom was off-world but you chose to ignore it. If we see what appears to be Loki, but is later revealed to have been a mirage then no it wasn't the real Loki. So if it was the real Doom according to you, when did the Doombot take his place?

Doombot was having a conversation with Hulks unconscious body? Makes sense 😂

Reading the story as a whole and not just out of context scans, it was clearly a verbal ownage. Hulk felt guilty over what happened to Banner and tried to push the blame onto Doom but it backfired and Doom made him realise that it was all his own doing because of separating them in the first place. Last panel of Hulk rammed that point home, Hulk accepting it was his fault.
In issue #6 Hulk swatted him aside like he was nothing, if he could've stopped Hulk he would have. Doom attacked and tried to stop him but was punched out of his own house for his troubles. You really think Vic would just allow Hulk to waltz into his house, strike him a couple of times and steal his possessions (Banner being property of Dooms was the deal Hulk agreed to) without retaliation? You must know nothing of Doom.

If Rulk allowed them to capture him and pretended to be ko'd then it voids everything that happened, he was obviously tricking the women including She-Hulk into thinking they were actually hurting him. His showings in that era were mostly trans.

👆

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not that it matters, as OP wants classic Hulk here...just pointing this out.

But if Doombots floor Hulk....


What Doombot?

Originally posted by carver9
WTF. At some point people need to realize when they are wrong. Doom was obviously talking to Hulk...even told him that if he came back, things would be much worse. Why would he say all of this to a knocked out body? Stop Celey. Hulk eyes was opened looking right up at Doom and you are going to say he went into LA LA land. WTF. Nothing like that was shown.

Doom was verbally owning him. While he was still conscious.
Not unlike a fighter verbally owning another fighter who has just been rocked and about to enter bedtime.

Now go move to the bottom of the panel where Hulk is laying down like a rag doll. Does that look like the body of someone who was and is able to get up after being put down?

His body position didn't change during the time Doom verbally owned him until the time we seen him in the last panel. He stayed in the same position the entire time. So if he was koed there, you might as well say he was koed during the verbal ownage as well since his position did not change.

Originally posted by carver9
His body position didn't change during the time Doom verbally owned him until the time we seen him in the last panel. He stayed in the same position the entire time. So if he was koed there, you might as well say he was koed during the verbal ownage as well since his position did not change.

No.
You can't just enforce your scenario and accept it as absolute with that reasoning. Now if the order of panels were reversed, then maybe it would reinforce your position. What you're doing is completely disavowing that last panel as if it was never there.

The fact of the matter is he was shown laid out, in a rag doll like state, and with a final view that seems to pan out from the setting.

Its...comic book art. Maybe the artist just didnt feel like drawing someone moving around. 🤨

If he wasn't Ko'd the only other POSSIBLE explanation is that he got too phucked up to move. There's not much difference in my eyes because a 10 count is still an L