Maul's got greater physicals, but I'd argue that 'Thor's sheer power and mastery nets him the win. This dude is powerful enough to defeat an ancient sith lord that was siphoning energies from hundreds of masters, this lord being powerful enough to sicken these masters in the first place, while 'Thor was weakened from repeated shielding technique uses, one time being draining enough to kill its last user. Add in her excellent TK feats while being significantly weakened from the technique, and her victory and TK-slaughtering of the First Son, and tbh that's alot of firepower to deal with, IMO more than Maul can handle.
Well, it depends on how much you believe the Consular grew in power over time and whether you believe he ever fully recovered from his repeated usage of the Shielding Technique (because that's left ambiguous).
It's just that I don't see a means with which the Barsen'thor can win. His telekinesis can throw Maul around, but it won't inflict fatal injuries and it could well prompt Maul to become enraged.
I have him higher as a duelist than most others do, but he's still not able to outduel Maul for a majority.
Maul probably wins 5-7/10, all hard fights.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Agreed, trashing the First Son whilst weakened repeatedly on four continuous occasions is far beyond Maul's ability in my opinion.
He never trashed the First Son, lol. The Consular had the aid of an ally plus Syo's Healing. I can ignore the ally because I believe that you can finish the game without a companion, and I generally take the best possible (but reasonable) instance of a fight.
However, I believe Syo heals you every time.
Originally posted by SunRazer
It's just that I don't see a means with which the Barsen'thor can win. His telekinesis can throw Maul around, but it won't inflict fatal injuries and it could well prompt Maul to become enraged.I have him higher as a duelist than most others do, but he's still not able to outduel Maul for a majority.
Maul probably wins 5-7/10, all hard fights.
throwing Maul around can prompt an opening for fatal injuries. While 'Thor is no Sidious, he's still done the aforementioned things, as well as being powerful enough to leave a nexus of force energy upon death.
I see where you're coming from. I'd imagine 'Thor is reasonably skilled, just evidently not on Maul's level. It's just that his absolutely immense power in the force could provide the necessary openings.
Originally posted by AncientPower
You underestimate Barsen'thor's telekinetic prowess tbh, destroying the First Son whilst four chunks of his power was expended is only telling of what prime Barsen'thor III can unleash. That nexus makes a lot of sense tbh.
What? And also, the First Son was struggling with Syo for mental control of his body during the course of the entire fight.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
throwing Maul around can prompt an opening for fatal injuries. While 'Thor is no Sidious, he's still done the aforementioned things, as well as being powerful enough to leave a nexus of force energy upon death.I see where you're coming from. I'd imagine 'Thor is reasonably skilled, just evidently not on Maul's level. It's just that his absolutely immense power in the force could provide the necessary openings.
The Barsen'thor is knocking on Vader's door in terms of sheer telekinetic potency and mastery, but even Vader can't just ragdoll Maul. There's no reason why the Consular would be able to throw Maul around at his leisure. Sure, his telekinetic attacks would disrupt Maul's lightsaber assaults, repulse him a couple of times, or send him flying into a wall. Even then, however, he's not inflicting anything that Maul can't recover from. Maul's withstood worse.
The Consular isn't so much more powerful that he can just Stun Maul or the likes with the Force, which means that apart from the telekinetic disruptions I mentioned earlier, the Barsen'thor will be forced to engage in a duel. And despite his dueling prowess and precognitive abilities, he'll fall to Maul eventually.
Of course, the scenarios you proposed may exist, but in my opinion, they won't be happening for a majority. That's not to say the Consular can't win some rounds, though.
Defeating a possessed Yuon Par, even after all the usages of the Shielding Technique,_andwhilst Yuon Par was drawing upon the Barsen'thor's own power. After this, the Consular defeats Lord Vivicar, the instigator of the plague, who is possessed by the ancient Sith Lord Terrak Morrhage. Vivicar is said to be terrifyingly powerful after siphoning the energies of hundreds of Jedi, and the Consular defeats him despite being terribly weakened as a result of repeatedly utilizing the Shielding Technique, which cost so much energy that its previous user had to sacrifice his own life in order to use it, and yet the Consular was able to utilize it six times, already a testament to his power, before defeating Lord Vivcar himself and then using the Shielding Technique a seventh time:
Your own respect thread displays this immense feat Nova, one Maul could never replicate.
Well, that depends. Perhaps Vivicar was just not particularly adept at lightsaber combat. It's more of just the Consular's specific skill set which allowed him to defeat Vivicar, but that same skill set may be less effective against Maul.
I am considering whether or not the Barsen'thor's immense Force reserves would allow his endurance to rival Maul's, though. In that case, it's probably an even split.
Healing is good but something I seem to have neglected until now is that the weaker/more injured you are, the less powerful your Healing becomes (unless you draw off pain like the Sith). Eventually, his Healing will be not be sufficient.
How would the Consular affect Maul's "Nightsister-based strength"? He's not using the Shielding Technique mid-duel.