Germany is RIGHT to keep the Muslims out!!!

Started by long pig4 pages

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Just heard an interview NPR had with a German official. He laid out some regulations for Germany accepting migrants which I think are sensible:

1) Germany should only take in refugees fleeing war. Economic refugees from non-warzone countries must unfortunately be turned away.
2) The migrants, regardless of their own cultures, must respect that Germany believes in equality between men and women. He said this was already becoming difficult in the migrant camps where for some migrants it was business as usual
3) They must respect Germany's relations with Israel


The problem is few if any are actually refugees from a warzone. They literally have to walk through peaceful countries to get to Germany. They are all economic migrants.

Originally posted by long pig
The problem is few if any are actually refugees from a warzone. They literally have to walk through peaceful countries to get to Germany. They are all economic migrants.

That's sophistry. We're talking about their original country, not which countries they've passed through.

The main distinction between war and economic refugees is that economic refugees can be sent back to their home countries without significant risk to life and limb, the same can't be said of war refugees.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
That's sophistry. We're talking about their original country, not which countries they've passed through.

The main distinction between war and economic refugees is that economic refugees can be sent back to their home countries without significant risk to life and limb, the same can't be said of war refugees.


Agreed, that's...pretty obvious.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
That's sophistry. We're talking about their original country, not which countries they've passed through.

The main distinction between war and economic refugees is that economic refugees can be sent back to their home countries without significant risk to life and limb, the same can't be said of war refugees.


I think he means they could've stayed in countries like Turkey, Serbia or the Czech Republic rather than all go to Germany.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Just heard an interview NPR had with a German official. He laid out some regulations for Germany accepting migrants which I think are sensible:

1) Germany should only take in refugees fleeing war. Economic refugees from non-warzone countries must unfortunately be turned away.
2) The migrants, regardless of their own cultures, must respect that Germany believes in equality between men and women. He said this was already becoming difficult in the migrant camps where for some migrants it was business as usual
3) They must respect Germany's relations with Israel

It sounds good in paper, but in practice?

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
It sounds good in paper, but in practice?

Like OV said earlier in this thread, Germany already has a large Muslim population mostly comprised of Turks but really from every Islamic nation. They will be able to handle some more. Let's not forget Germany is not the only country in Europe taking in these refugees, and overall only 3-4% of the Syrian refugees have fled to Europe. Most of them are in Turkey and Jordan.

Originally posted by Slay
I think he means they could've stayed in countries like Turkey, Serbia or the Czech Republic rather than all go to Germany.

I know what he meant, i was explaining why that doesn't change their status or their situation.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I know what he meant, i was explaining why that doesn't change their status or their situation.

Sure it does. They were in a safe country of their own culture that accepted them. They have no reason to leave to the west other than economic/strategic reasons.

These are not refugees, they are criminals(illegal immigration), terrorists(Isis) and cowards(military age men running from invaders). Those aren't the type of people we want.
Not to mention, they are of an alien, stone aged culture that is diametrically opposed to the country they're infesting.

No more muzzies.

I feel the need to say I do appreciate the soft heart and empathy shown by those who are wanting to save these people. I do. Sometimes I wish I had that ability. But not now. You're allowing logic to be lost in a twisted sense of survivor's guilt.

Its not our fault they are a failed experiment and we are a successful one. They are cultural crabs in a bucket. Let them die in the desert like their prophet.

Maybe then they will finally come to their senses and adapt to the modern world. Maybe they will reform.
We will never know if we keep enabling them.

In the end what it comes down to is that even if the EU would take in all 4 million Syrian refugees and we assume that 100% of them are Muslim, the percentage of Muslims in the EU would rise from about 4% to about 5%, which is still a small minority. A Muslim minority in the EU is neither new nor something to fear. It's not going to turn Europe into a Caliphate or Emirate.

The reason this is considered ''a crisis'' has nothing to do with the religion of the refugees and should not be the main talking point in the discussion.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Just heard an interview NPR had with a German official. He laid out some regulations for Germany accepting migrants which I think are sensible:

1) Germany should only take in refugees fleeing war. Economic refugees from non-warzone countries must unfortunately be turned away.
2) The migrants, regardless of their own cultures, must respect that Germany believes in equality between men and women. He said this was already becoming difficult in the migrant camps where for some migrants it was business as usual
3) They must respect Germany's relations with Israel

4) They must respect the German people, their culture, traditions; integrate into the community and learn the German language.

Originally posted by Slay
In the end what it comes down to is that even if the EU would take in all 4 million Syrian refugees and we assume that 100% of them are Muslim, the percentage of Muslims in the EU would rise from about 4% to about 5%, which is still a small minority. A Muslim minority in the EU is neither new nor something to fear. It's not going to turn Europe into a Caliphate or Emirate.

The reason this is considered ''a crisis'' has nothing to do with the religion of the refugees and should not be the main talking point in the discussion.


These aren't normal immigrants. They aren't going to stop invading until they are forced back.
These people are, for all intents and purposes, enemy combatants. Anti west and religiously bent on the downfall of all non Islamic countries. 4% now, but they breed like rats. Averaging 5 kids per sow. Their numbers will skyrocket.

They already have turned violent, screaming Allah akhbar while attacking cops..
Sure, some may refuse to follow the orders of their God to destroy you, but some sure as shit will.
Who will stop the madness?

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
4) They must respect the German people, their culture, traditions; integrate into the community and learn the German language.

Will they follow the law or their God?
Is it worth finding out?

Originally posted by Bardock42
YouTube video

Fantastic video explaining the major points of the refugee story, and setting straight some of the unfounded fears.

Reposting this here because of long pig's lies.

Originally posted by long pig
Will they follow the law or their God?
Is it worth finding out?

Hopefully they'll find a compromise between the two.

Originally posted by long pig
Sure it does. They were in a safe country of their own culture that accepted them. They have no reason to leave to the west other than economic/strategic reasons

If you're referring to Turkey, Lebanon, and Jordan, those countries are overburdened and fed up with migrants and the conditions in their camps are almost as bad as if the people stayed in Syria (not to mention with Jordan their economy is shit, and Turkey may erupt into a civil war of their own soon). Lebanon is a particularly stark case: Syrian refugees now make up something like 1/4 of the country's population.

Originally posted by long pig
These aren't normal immigrants. They aren't going to stop invading until they are forced back.
These people are, for all intents and purposes, enemy combatants. Anti west and religiously bent on the downfall of all non Islamic countries. 4% now, but they breed like rats. Averaging 5 kids per sow. Their numbers will skyrocket.

They already have turned violent, screaming Allah akhbar while attacking cops..
Sure, some may refuse to follow the orders of their God to destroy you, but some sure as shit will.
Who will stop the madness?


Like the video Bardock posted points out, the Syrian population has been in steady decline for quite some time so that is simply false. Also referring to their women as sows? Aren't you the one who thinks we should fear Islam amongst other things because of how it treats women?

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Hopefully they'll find a compromise between the two.

They've never been able to before. Ever. Its silly to think they will start now.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
If you're referring to Turkey, Lebanon, and Jordan, those countries are overburdened and fed up with migrants and the conditions in their camps are almost as bad as if the people stayed in Syria (not to mention with Jordan their economy is shit, and Turkey may erupt into a civil war of their own soon). Lebanon is a particularly stark case: Syrian refugees now make up something like 1/4 of the country's population.

The only requirement is a safe place. They aren't owed anything more. They left the safty of their new home because they weren't able to get hand outs. They were too weak, not smart enough. They darted towards the west like a cackle of hyenas, looking for the best welfare state.

Originally posted by Slay
Like the video Bardock posted points out, the Syrian population has been in steady decline for quite some time so that is simply false. Also referring to their women as sows? Aren't you the one who thinks we should fear Islam amongst other things because of how it treats women?

Its funny you think most of these people are Syrians. There are from all over the middle East. They made their own home a shit hole, now they want to do the same to the west.

I don't care how they treat their women. I care how they'll treat our women. They have roving rape gangs in England, raping underage girls and boys. This is their stone age culture. Disgusting.

I'm really not trying to be offensive, it just infuriates me to see this happen.