Do the right use free speech to promote hate and xenophobia?

Online consequences are few, however many keyboard warriors who promote ideas based on prejudice seem to use the right of freedom of speech to attack minority groups based on religion, race and gender.

I find this growing trend disgusting and whilst I would fight for anyone to have the right to say what they want. Political correctness and some diplomacy for other peoples feelings is something I think all rational people can buy into.

The kind of people that say “political correctness gone mad” are usually using that phrase as a kind of cover action to attack minorities or people that they disagree with. Often with no facts and merely opinion cached as fact to support the rhetoric of prejudice.

Thoughts?

The kind that justify the critique the opponents of pc are as bad and emotional as those screaming about free speech to excuse their insults. What you just did was use extreme leftist ignorance to lump the entire right into one group. Not to mention, the topic title is such an idiotic and loaded question, you've just proved to be the liberal manifestation of TI. Congratulations!

Originally posted by psmith81992
The kind that justify the critique the opponents of pc are as bad and emotional as those screaming about free speech to excuse their insults. What you just did was use extreme leftist ignorance to lump the entire right into one group. Not to mention, the topic title is such an idiotic and loaded question, you've just proved to be the liberal manifestation of TI. Congratulations!

Nooo, one has to go a lot further to be the liberal manifestation of Time.

Because, well, while not all of the right is doing so, we have right now a fairly large group of people trying to support Kim Davis under the guise of 'free speech'. The thing that Knife is talking about is fairly public and visible. Huckabee does the kind of thing mentioned in the original post, for example.

Knife also only said it was a 'growing trend,' that 'many keyboard warriors,' used, he didn't say it was something all did- that's you exaggerating his position. He also asked for thoughts, and did not state it as an absolute.

Which brings up another topic- the tendency for some people to, when someone notes a problem in an area, to react as if it was an absolute blanket attack, even if the original phrasings don't actually fit that. You're getting on his case for the tone of his argument when he didn't use that tone.

Now, you could have responded by saying that you didn't think it was a big deal, or that there's always some people of any side who engage in that kind of talk, but your response is, ironically, more extreme than Knife's.

To ask if the right exclusively engages in the aforementioned activity IS an ignorant attack. To say those arguing against pc just need an excuse IS an ignorant attack. Add to the fact that knife has notoriously been anti right on this forum without any legitimate argue, and my claim rings true. And finally, because you're left of center, you don't think knife is anything like ti while all he does is spew ignorant liberal rhetoric, making him TI's counterpart. And since I'm right of center, you and I will simply disagree.

I got a laugh about the keyboard warrior part, since "keyboard warriors" don't inherently lean to the left or right.

**** your feelings, libbo. 😛

Originally posted by long pig
**** your feelings, libbo. 😛

Originally posted by Knife
Online consequences are few, however many keyboard warriors who promote ideas based on prejudice seem to use the right of freedom of speech to attack minority groups based on religion, race and gender.

I find this growing trend disgusting and whilst I would fight for anyone to have the right to say what they want. Political correctness and some diplomacy for other peoples feelings is something I think all rational people can buy into.

The kind of people that say “political correctness gone mad” are usually using that phrase as a kind of cover action to attack minorities or people that they disagree with. Often with no facts and merely opinion cached as fact to support the rhetoric of prejudice.

Thoughts?

Look at the bright side, it helps profiling extremists 😖hifty:

Originally posted by long pig
**** your feelings, libbo. 😛

🤣

"Online consequences are few, however many keyboard warriors who promote ideas based on prejudice seem to use the right of freedom of speech to attack minority groups based on religion, race and gender."

Abuse of rights is what happens when *one's rights* are emphasized without equal emphasis on responsibility, ie, using one's rights responsibly. You don't have one without the other.

Rights w/o responsibility = reckless narcissism.
Responsibility w/o rights = slavery.

Originally posted by Mindship
"Online consequences are few, however many keyboard warriors who promote ideas based on prejudice seem to use the right of freedom of speech to attack minority groups based on religion, race and gender."

Abuse of rights is what happens when *one's rights* are emphasized without equal emphasis on responsibility, ie, using one's rights responsibly. You don't have one without the other.

Rights w/o responsibility = reckless narcissism.
Responsibility w/o rights = slavery.

Truth: Bruce Jenner is a man with a serious mental illness who mutilated his body and now looks like a monster.
P.C: Catlyn Jenner is a beautiful woman and an inspiration!

See the difference?

Yeah, asking people to be kinda to each other and to consider the harm that their words do is worse than slavery....

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, asking people to be kinda to each other and to consider the harm that their words do is worse than slavery....

And yes, mental control...which is what the pc crowd is after....is worse than slavery.

Originally posted by long pig
Kindness is fine, what they want is enabling. Bruce Jenner is a prime example.

And yes, mental control...which is what the pc crowd is after....is worse than slavery.

The issue with Caitlyn Jenner is that people are too ignorant or stupid (in your case my bet is the latter) to know or understand how trans experiences are actually real. Insisting on calling her a man is really just celebrating ones own shortcomings. At any rate, Political Correctness is basically just people saying, "do not unjustly harm others by using close minded stereotypes or we will think badly of you", you don't have a right to people thinking well of you or giving credence to you stupid ideas.

Originally posted by Bardock42
The issue with Caitlyn Jenner is that people are too ignorant or stupid (in your case my bet is the latter) to know or understand how trans experiences are actually real. Insisting on calling her a man is really just celebrating ones own shortcomings. At any rate, Political Correctness is basically just people saying, "do not unjustly harm others by using close minded stereotypes or we will think badly of you", you don't have a right to people thinking well of you or giving credence to you stupid ideas.

Anyway, I'm sure Bruce is going through a lot. His mental illness has turned self destructive and his spiral into madness is exacerbated by people like you.

You don't encourage someone's psychosis, you don't pretend to see a madman's hallucinations and you don't call a man a woman when he puts on a dress and mutilates his body.

And you're wrong. The consequences aren't just " we'll think badly of you. ". The pc crowd has invaded the work place and politics and the justice system. You can lose your job and everything you own for simply being honest.

Progressive Libbos are dangerous and brain washed. They attack and can turn violent if you disagree with them.

Originally posted by Bardock42
The issue with Caitlyn Jenner is that people are too ignorant or stupid (in your case my bet is the latter) to know or understand how trans experiences are actually real. Insisting on calling her a man is really just celebrating ones own shortcomings. At any rate, Political Correctness is basically just people saying, "do not unjustly harm others by using close minded stereotypes or we will think badly of you", you don't have a right to people thinking well of you or giving credence to you stupid ideas.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Then you're part of that ignorance since you are not transgender. Nobody cares about Bruce or caitlin no matter how many times it's brought up.

You can understand something without being it yourself.

And lots of people both pro and con care about Caitlyn Jenner, hence why she is talked about so much.

Originally posted by long pig
So youve been reduced to name calling. You must not have much confidence in your argument.

Anyway, I'm sure Bruce is going through a lot. His mental illness has turned self destructive and his spiral into madness is exacerbated by people like you.

You don't encourage someone's psychosis, you don't pretend to see a madman's hallucinations and you don't call a man a woman when he puts on a dress and mutilates his body.

And you're wrong. The consequences aren't just " we'll think badly of you. ". The pc crowd has invaded the work place and politics and the justice system. You can lose your job and everything you own for simply being honest.

Progressive Libbos are dangerous and brain washed. They attack and can turn violent if you disagree with them.

I don't buy the argument that name calling has an effect one ones argument. My argument stands correct, unrelated to my desire to point out what I think of you (not much)

You just further show your ignorance on the topic, it is very sad how celebrated anti-intellectualism is by people like you.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I don't buy the argument that name calling has an effect one ones argument. My argument stands correct, unrelated to my desire to point out what I think of you (not much)

You just further show your ignorance on the topic, it is very sad how celebrated anti-intellectualism is by people like you.

Bruce is mentally ill. He needs help, not enabling.

No

Originally posted by Bardock42
You can understand something without being it yourself.

And lots of people both pro and con care about Caitlyn Jenner, hence why she is talked about so much.

Lots of people meaning a small minority who care about some guy they never met deciding to get a sex change? Hmmm

Now tell me, why is it that you think you understand transgender more than the next guy? Or are you automatically assuming if someone doesn't accept someone else, they don't understand them?